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I think he will see the origin of this passage. pected places. Many of these have been preserved Not indeed that the wording is the same, nor the in its pages, and made available by the capital names ; but the digression in Sir Richard's book indexes to your volumes and series. I have just is one which perhaps, above all others in it, would stumbled upon one such in Lord Malmesbury's inbe likely to fix itself in the memory of any casual teresting Diary and Correspondence of the First and literary reader, while the passage in the play Earl of Malmesbury. It relates to Mirabeau, points 'reads exactly as though it were a chance bit him out as the author of an anonymous book, and which had so infixed itself in the writer's memory as having been employed as a spy at the court of or struck him as an available waif of information, Berlin : and been, so to speak, seized upon and worked “Mirabeau was a spy at Berlin. His letters from up and adapted to his purpose. If this be so, we thence were published in a book called. La Cour de Berlin obtain for the probable date of the play the same
par un Voyageur,' and much has been said as to whether
they were genuine. In the last leaf of a copy at Heron as that given by Mr. Dyce, viz. the close of 1622
Court, the following note by the second Lord Malmesbury or early part of 1623, for though Sir Richard's decides the question. On the 27th April, 1834, I met voyage was made in 1593, he does not appear to Prince Talleyrand at dinner at Lord Tankerville's. The have written his Observations long before their Prince was at that time ambassador at our court from publication in 1622.
that of the Tuilleries. In alluding to this work, I re
marked that it was generally attributed to Mirabeau. TOMB-STONES AND THEIR INSCRIPTIONS. - Al.
Prince Talleyrand observed, “Mais oui, c'était bien lui low me to make a suggestion, which, if not fully correspondence of an agent at that time of the French
que l'a écrit.” I added, that it appeared to me to be the carried out by order of the Government (as, in government. Prince I'alleyrand immediately, replied my opinion, it ought to be), may nevertheless be C'était avec 'moi qu'il correspondait.” » » - Diary and at least partially accomplished by means of pri- Correspondence of the First Earl of Malmesbury, vol. ii. p. vate individuals. My suggestion is, to have a
187, note. complete copy made of all the inscriptions in our There have been few more valuable contribu. city and village churchyards, before the band of tions to recent history than these instructive votime has further defaced and rendered illegible lumes.
BOOKWORM. the only records that we possess respecting many individuals and families whose names, and births,
PAPER.—The introduction of the art of paperand deaths, often become the subject of inquiry, making into England is generally placed early in and even of litigation.
the sixteenth century, when two mills, one at Oxford,
Hertford, and the other at Dartford, in Kent, are
known to have been in existence. I have met QUARTERLY REVIEWS. - In “N. & Q." 2nd S. with a reference to a third, which seems to have viii. 124, is a list of contributors to the Foreign been in operation for some time prior to the 34th Quarterly Review; there is, I believe, in one of the year of Elizabeth (1591): – old volumes of the Gentleman's Magazine * a “ Fencliften, co. Cambridge. Lease of a Watermill, similar list of contributors to the early volumes of called Paper-mills, late of the Bishopric of Ely, to John the Quarterly Review. These lists are valuable, Grange, dated 14th July, 34th Eliz.”—Land Revenue and a continuation of them, or of any of the Quar
H. G. H. terly Reviews, would be of great service to the literary public, and could be furnished at but LADY MADELINA PALMER.— In De Quincey's little trouble by the editors or proprietors. I English Mail Coach" (Miscellanies, ed. 1854, just draw your attention to the subject, and per- p. 289), it is stated that Mr. Palmer, M.P. for haps you could obtain such for insertion in some Bath, the inventor of mail coaches, married the future “N. & Q."
daughter of a duke, and in a note is added " Lady An index of subjects in the Quarterly Reviews Madeline Gordon.” This is, I believe, a mistake. would be of inestimable value to writers employed Madelina, daughter of Alexander, fourth Duke of in literary research. I have actually made one Gordon, and widow of Sir Robert Sinclair, Bart., of the Quarterlies, &c., that I possess; nor do I married Nov. 25, 1805, Charles Fysh Palmer, Esq. think the labour lost; but a complete one of all of Luckley Park, Berks, who was subsequently the Quarterlies is a work much needed.
M.P. for Reading.
S. Y. R. SAMUEL SHAW. Andover.
Origin OF THE SARACEN'S HEAD.MIRABEAU A Spy.-One of the objects for which Talk,“ undervalue an enemy by whom you have been
“ Do not,” said learned John Selden, in his Table “ N. & Q.” was started was the preservation of worsted. When our countrymen came home from fighting short and interesting notes which readers are con- with the Saracens, and were beaten by them, they pictinually meeting with in out-of-the way and unex- tured them with huge, big, terrible faces, as you still see
the sign of the Saracen's Head is." See Gentleman's Magazine for 1844, part i. pp. 137,
D. M. STEVENS. 578. — Ed.]
THE END OF SPEECH.—" The end of speech," The Rev. WILLIAM JARVIS ABDY. — Can any said Talleyrand, or some one like him, " is to of your readers favour me with a copy of Dr. conceal the thoughts," and the saying has passed Abdy's epitaph ?. He died in April, 1823, and was into a proverb; to counteract its influence, pray probably buried in St. John's church, Horslydown, reprint the following from a better, if not a greater Southwark, where he officiated for more than forty man :
years; the place of bis burial is not stated in the "The end of speech is the uttering sweetly and pro- memoir published by his son in 1823, and preperly, the conceits of the mind."— Defence of Poesy by fixed to a volume of his father's sermons. This Sir Philip Sidney.”
son, the Rev. J. Channing Abdy, succeeded him D. M. STEVENS.
in the rectory of St. John's, Horslydown, and died Guildford.
January 27, 1845, aged 52. Any recollections of them would be acceptable.
F. G. Queries.
Rev. Richard BARRY, M.A. – This gentleman
was Rector of Upton Scudamore, sometime in the “DON QUIXOTE."
latter half of the last century. It is believed his As I am aware that the principal Spanish edi. father was rector and patron of the same living ; tions of Don Quixote, as well as the principal and said to be a collateral descendant of Chicheley, French and English translations, have been men- Archbishop of Canterbury, temp. Henry VI. Of tioned in “ N. & Q.," my object in sending these Mr. Barry's family one son, Richard, acted as few lines is to inquire: 1. What are the titles and secretary to General Fox, and was Assistant Quardates of the Latin, Danish, and Portuguese trans- termaster General with the army in Flanders in lations? In looking over the Catalogue a few 1794-5: this appointment, as appears by a letter days ago, in the reading-room of the British Mu- from him dated 1795, having been given bin by seun, I was unable to find, under the heading of the Duke of York. Another son was Gaius “Don Quixote," the translations in these three Barry, M.A., Rector of Little Sodbury, from languages.* Ticknor, in his History of Spanish 1819 to 1850. Literature (vol. iii. p. 384, London, 1849), men- I should be glad to ascertain : 1. What was his tions" that translations of Don Quixote have ap- coat of arms ? 2. Did he prefer any claim as “of peared in Latin, Italian, Dutch, Danish, Russian, Founder's kin" at All Souls, Oxford ? 3. In Polish, and Portuguese," &c.
what year did he die ? 4. Are any of his writings My next Query is, Can any of your correspon- known? dents inform me what are the merits and charac- The Stemmata Chicheleana would doubtless af. ter of the Spanish edition of Don Quixote, which ford the information upon the third Query; but I was published in America under the following am not able to consult it, nor am I aware whether title :
there is any other than the one in the library of “El Ingenioso Hidalgo Don Quijote de la Mancha, All Souls.*
J. S. KENSINGTOX. compuesto por Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra. Nueva Edicion Clásica, illustrada con Notas Históricas, Gram
vi. 182, 183; viii. 660, 667; Nichols's Literary Illustramaticales y Criticas, por la Academia Española, sus tions, vi. 382, 402, 403, 411; vii. 592; viii. 165, 169, 193, Individuos de Número Pellicer, Arrieta, y Clemencin. 274. Consult also, Letters of the Rev. James Granger, Enmendada y corregida por Francisco Sales, A.M., In
M.A., 8vo, 1805, pp. 37-47. Mr. Bowle edited an edistructor de Frances y Español en la Universidad de
tion of Don Quixote in Spanish, for which he was attacked Havard, en Cambrigia, Estado de Massachusetts, Norte by Baretti
, under the title of Tolondron. (Nicolas's Life América.” (2 tom. 12mo, Boston, 1836.)
of Ritson, p. xxii.) Mr. Bowle also published “A Letter This edition I have never seen.
It is not men
to Bishop Percy, concerning a new and classical edition
of Don Quixote, Lond. 1777, 4to.”] tioned by Ticknor, which is somewhat surprising.
[* The name of Barry only occurs in Table No. 276, My third Query is, Where can I find a short of the Stemmata Chicheleana, where is given the marriage biography of a Rev. John Bowle, a Protestant of James Barry, fourth Earl of Barrymore, who had for clergyman, who published a very learned edition his second wife Lady Elizabeth Savage, daughter and of Don Quixote in Spanish, in 1781? I believe heir to Richard, Earl Rivers, and by her (who died 19 he lived in a village near Salisbury.t
March, 1714,) he had the Lady Penelope Barry, who was J. DALTON.
married to Major-Gen. James Cholmondeley. (See also
Lodge's Peerage, i. 311, ed. 1789.) In Hoare's Wiltshire, Norwich.
Hundred of Warminster, p. 52, are the following notices
of the Barry family from monumental inscriptions: [* Our correspondent should have referred to the entry “ Nicholas Barry, M.A., son of Richard Barry, Rector of Cervantes Saavedra (Miguel de) in the new Catalogue, Upton Scudamore, ob. Aug. 3, 1734. Rev. Richard Barry, where there are nearly twenty pages filled with the vari. M.A., fifty-eight years Rector of the same parish, ob. ous editions of Don Quixote.
Nov. 21, 1749. Rev. Richard Barry, Rector of the same † Biographical notices of John Bowle, Clerk, and Vicar parish, and Vicar of Bitton, co. Gloucester, ob. Feb. 21, of Idmiston, may be found in the Gent. Mag., lviii. 1029, 1766. Rev. Richard Barry, Rector of Upton Scudamore, 1122 ; Nichols's Literary Anecdotes, ii. 553 ; iii. 160, 670; ob. Sept. 22, 1779.-ED.]
ST. ANTHONY'S TEMPTATION. - Where is the CAREW AND BROKE. George Carew, Earl of original narrative of this favourite subject of the Totnes, and Henry Broke, eighth Baron Cobham, early painters to be found? Having recently ex- were near kinsmen. I shall be much obliged if amined Breughel's famous but grotesque picture some genealogical reader of “ N. &Q." will kindly in the Balbi Palace, Genoa, as well as others, I point out to me their common descent and degree am anxious to get at the authority.
of affinity. Notwithstanding some research I have Sir Thomas BARTLET.He died before 1614; failed to discover the connection.
JOHN MACLEAN. but I should be glad to know the exact date. Was he related to Elizabeth Bartlet, first married CARVED HEAD IN ASTLEY CHURCH. — On a to Sir Richard Cave, and afterwards to Dr. Yate, pillar supporting one of the Norman arches on the Principal of Brazennose? Wood (F. 0., i. 239, north side of the nave of Astley church near Stoured. Bliss,) says that she died Jan. 11, 1688, aged port, Worcestershire, is a single head in relief, eighty or more, and was buried near Dr. Yate. carved by no common artist. Neither inscription Her arms are impaled on his monument. CPL.
nor topographical history tells the tale of this sinBIBLE TRANSLATORS. Wanted the dates of gular monument. From the position of the head in death, and ages if possible, of the translators of relief, more than halfway up the shaft of the pillar the authorised version of the Scriptures, A.D. looking downwards, it has been supposed to con1611 ; namely, Dr. Francis Burleigh, Dr. Geoffry template a grave underneath the pavement; but King, Richard Thompson, William Bedwell, Ed- as extensive alterations were made early in the ward Lively, Francis Dillingham, Thomas Harri- present century in this fine old church, many son, Dr. Robert Spalding, Dr. Andrew Byng, Dr. traces of its past history have been obliterated. John Harding, Dr. Miles Smith, Dr. Ralph Hut- The chancel-arch and nave aisles are of early Norcheson, Dr. Roger Fenton, Michael Rabbett, Dr. man work, and the church was originally depenThomas Sanderson.
X. Y. Z. dent upon an alien priory at Evreux in Nor
mandy, Blount of BITTON. — Can any of your correspondents oblige me with the descent of Robert the head, I should have thought it contemporary
Were it not for the admirable workmanship of Blount, who was seised of the manor of Bitton, with the pillar itself, so little has it the appearance co. Gloucester, in the reign of Henry IV.? Richard le Blount held the manor 20 Edw. II.; dents know of a similar monument, or is this
of a later insertion. Do any of your correspon but dying without issue, was succeeded by his brother Edmond, who died 36 Edw. III. It was
curious specimen unique ?
Thos. E. WINNINGTON. then held by Edmond Blount (4 Rich. II.); and by William Blount (22 Rich. II.), whose daugh- GEORGE EDWARDS, F.R.S. — Can any one give ter and heiress Isabel succeeded him, but died
me any information as to the ancestors of George without issue. On her decease the manor came Edwards, the naturalist, who was sometime librato Robert Blount- the subject of my Query. rian to the Royal College of Physicians. I wish Atkyns, in his Gloucestershire (p. 148, s. v. “Bit
to know if he were connected with a family of ton"), only says he was her “next kinsman." Suffolk of the same name.*
E. I should be glad to learn how, and also what was the relationship between, the Edmonds and ENGRAVINGS OF RELIGIOUS RITES. - Wanted, William ?
John WOODWARD. references to books containing engravings of reTHOMAS BROOKS.—Having failed to trace either
ligious rites or customs, throughout the world, the birth-place or birth-date of this eminent ancient or modern. To save trouble the enquirer Puritan, well-known as the author of Apples of and most of the professedly illustrated works.
knows Picart, Gardiner, Calmet, David Roberts, Gold, Precious Remedies against Satan's Devices, &c. &c., and being about to conclude a Memoir of what he requires are those in Voyages, Travels, him for a collective edition of bis Works, I make
and Missionary Books.
DRAUGUTSMAN. a forlorn-hope appeal to readers of “ N. & Q." to
Rev. WILLIAM Felton. - I extract the followaid me in securing one or both? Will readers ing from Musical Biography, 1814, ii. 59:familiar with their respective county histories and parish registers kindly let me know of
“ The Rev. William Felton, prebendary of Hereford, Thomas
any Brooks mentioned therein ? He died in 1680, in
was celebrated in his day for a neat and rapid execution
on the organ and the harpsichord. He published three London, in a good old age.
A. B. GROSART. sets of Concertos for these instruments, in imitation of
those of Handel, and two or three sets of Lessons, which [1 Wm. Bedwell, ob. May 5, 1632, aged seventy. Ro- have been in considerable request. They are not, howbinson's Hist. of Tottenham, p. 104, ed. 1818. % Miles ever, now to be met with, except occasionally amongst Smith, afterwards Bishop of Gloucester, ob. Oct. 20, 1624. collections of secondhand music. Stubbs's Registrum Sacrum Anglicanum, p. 91. — 5 Roger Fenton, ob. Jan. 16, 1615. Newcourt's Repertorium, i. [* George Edwards was a native of Essex: see a notice 197.-Ed.]
on him in our 3rd S. ii. 413.-Ed.]
On referring to the index I find it stated that HERBERT OF CARDIFF. — Barbara, daughter of Mr. Felton flourished 1730. In a Dictionary of Harry Herbert of Cardiff, married Harry Mon-, Musicians, 1824, the preceding article is copied creiffe, son of David Moncreiffe of Moncreiffe. with the substitution of his time” for “his day,' This David died before 1649. Can any corre. and, absurdly enough, there is nothing in that spondent give me any information about this fawork which gives any clue to what is meant by mily of Herbert, &c. &c. ? Were they of Powys “his time,” except the allusion to Handel. Mr. or of Pembroke, &c. ? How came Cardiff Castle Chappell (Popular Music, 682) also mentions the into the possession of the Stuarts, Marquisses of Rev. William Felton, prebendary of Hereford, as Bute? Can any pedigree of the Herberts of Cara musical composer. I do not find Mr. Felton's diff be seen ? An answer to these queries will name amongst the prebendaries of Hereford enu
R. W. BLENCOWE. merated in Mr. Hardy's edition of Le Neve's Fasti. It is to be hoped that some correspondent may be
MAXIMS : NEWBERY: GOLDSMITH.—There was able to give a more precise and accurate account printed at London for T. Carnan, at Mr. Newof this gentleman than we now possess.
bery's, the Bible and Sun, in St. Paul's Church
S. Y. R. yard, 1751, a little book with this title: GAMES: MERRY-MAIN
“ An Index to Mankind; or, Maxims selected from “Whatever games were stirring, at places where he
Wits of all Nations for the Benefit of the Present Age
and Posterity. By Mrs. Mary Midnight, Author of the retired, as gammon, gleek, piquet, or even merry main (?) (sic), he made one.--Life of Lord Keeper Guildford, vol. I. Midwife, or Old Woman's Magazine Intermix'd with
some curious reflections by that Lady, and a Preface by p. 17." Southey's Common-place Book, under « Collections
her good Friend the late Mr. Pope." * for English Manners and Literature." I presume "gammon” is our backgammon desirable to find out the author who in the Pre
The maxims are excellent, and it would be and " gleek” some sort of game with cards ; - piquet" we know, but what was “merry main"; face remarks : Was it a main of dice, or a 'main of cocks ? I “Many fresh maxims are added to this work-if such an incline to the latter, as there would be no reason
expression may be allowed of: for in propriety of speech for North writing
before the dicing
there can be no such thing as a new maxim, for inaxims game.
J. D. CAMPBELL.
are founded upon truth; and Truth, like her Author, is
eternally and invariably the same." HEATH BEER. — There is 'a curious tradition, quickly fading out from the remoter districts in Could he have any hand in the preparation of this
Goldsmith was much employed by Newbery. Ireland, where Irish is still the only spoken lan
little work ? guage, of the Danish invaders having used an inebriating liquor made from heath, the secret of in which these maxims are put. Thus:
A few instances may be given of the clever way making which was lost at their expulsion. The peasantry term this “beoir-lochlonnach" (locloñac,
“ A politician's conscience is like a pair of breeches, to literally, strong at sea, an epithet applied to the be taken up or let down as it may suit the ease or conNorthmen generally by the Celtic races), and the “ An English malcontent is like a dog shut out of doors sites of the brewing vats are still pointed out in on a cold night, who only howls to be let in.” secluded spots. There is a curious and learned " Debauching a Member of the House of Commons paper on this subject in the Ulster Journal of Ar- from his principles, and creating him a peer, is not much cheology for July, 1859; but the inquiry has not marrying her.”
better than making a woman a whore, and afterwards been answered, whether any similar remains and “ The thoughts of freedom make people easy in a retraditions occur at the British side of the Channel? | publick, though they suffer more than under an arbitrary
J. L. monarch."
“ Many who carry the liberty of the people highest, HERALDIC. - I wish to ask the advice of some
serve them as they do trout, tickle them till they catch of the learned correspondents of “ N. & Q." under them.” the following circumstances : --My father was the
J. M. son of a gentleman who bore arms, but having been wildly inclined in his youth he ran away from BELGIUM.—In the south-eastern parts of Ireland
“ MAY MAIDS” IN IRELAND, FRANCE, AND bome, and got his living eventually as a mechanic. Ibave, by my own exertions, restored myself to (and no doubt all over the island) a custom used that position which my father forfeited. I now
to prevail — perhaps so still —on Mayday, when wish to know if my right to use the arms of my people too, collected in districts and localities
the young people of both sexes, and many old family is impaired by the fact of his having prac- and selected the handsomest girl, of from eighteen tised a mechanical art, and if it will be necessary to twenty-one years of age, as queen of the for me to get a new grant of arms ? I am told that my gentility is done away by his misconduct,
[* We may as well add the laconic Preface said to be and that a new grant is necessary: is this so?
by A. Pope: “Blessed is the man who expects nothing, P. F.
for he shall never be disappointed.”—Ed.]
district for twelve months. She was then crowned kites, quoits, coits, koits, as the word is variously with wild flowers, and feasting, dancing, and spelt ?' Perhaps kile, or keel-pins = skittles, I rural sports were closed by a grand procession in think. the evening. The duties of her majesty were by “ Irish gamyne" I can make nothing cf. It no means heavy, as she had only to preside over must have been some sort of horse-play. rural assemblies of young folk at dances and “ Tables " may mean shuffleboard. merrymakings, and had the utmost obedience paid
J. D. CAMPBELL. to her by all classes of her subjects. If she got married before the next Mayday her authority
ANCIENT SUNDIAL. —- Over the south door of was at an end, but still she held office until that
the curious ancient church of Bishopstone, near day, when her successor to the throne was chosen. Newhaven, there is a surdial bearing the inscrip
tion : If not married during her reign of twelve months,
66 + EAD she was capable of being re-elected, but that sel
R I C." dom happened, as there was always found some candidate, put forward by the young men of the
The hours are not numbered. Is this of Saxon district, to dispute the crown the next year.
B. H. C. During a short residence in Normandy and Flan- KING WILLIAM III. - I have two anonymous ders, I saw processions of Maymaids — exactly volumes relative to King William; one entitled like what used to take place in Ireland - crowning
An Impartial History of the Plots and Conspiracies with flowers, &c.; but I could not ascertain if a against the Life of His Sacred Majesty, King Wilqueen were elected. Perhaps some correspondent liam III. (18mo, London, 1696); and the other, acquainted with Normandy and Flanders can say " by R. K.",* A True History of the several Desomething on this subject, aš it would be in
signs and Conspiracies against His Majesties Sacred teresting to ascertain how similar practices pre- Person and Government, 1688–1697 (small 8vo, vail in the three countries.
S. REDMOND. London, 1698). They are distinct publications, Liverpool.
and, if I mistake not, rather uncommon. For a MEDIATISED GERMAN Princes. Where can I special purpose I am desirous to know by whom find a list of the mediatised German Princes ? they were written.
ABHBA. J. WOODWARD. PHILLIPS FAMILY. — Any information concern
Queries with Answers. ing the ancestors of the Rev. George Phillips (who was graduated at Caius College, Cambridge, in Bishor Cox, or ELY, AND QUEEN ELIZABETH.1613, settled as a minister at Boxted, in Essex, In Murray's Handbook to the Cathedrals of Eng. and emigrated to Massachusetts in 1630) will be land (Eastern Division, “Ely Cathedral,” P. 255), gratefully received by
J. C. L. occurs the following explanation of the circumSCOTTISH GAMES. —
stance under which Bishop Cox is said to have
received an extraordinary letter from Queen Eli“ What, for instance, are we to understand by the zabeth ; a copy of which I send to “N. & Q.," King (James IV.) playing at the prop in Strathbogy,
though it has often been printed :and losing four shillings and fourpence? and what is the difference between the lung bowlis with which his Majesty
“ In 1559 Edward Cox, on the deprivation of Bishop amused himself at St. Andrews, on the 28th April, 1487, Thirlby, was consecrated to the See of Ely; from which and the row bowlis which contributed to his royal diver. under the pressure of the Queen and Courtiers, he was sion on the 20th June, 1501?... What again are we to compelled to alienate many of the best Manors. . . . The understand by the Kiles which the King played at in Lord Keeper Hatton subsequently procured the alienaGlenluce on the 29th March, 1506? and what is the dis. tion of a portion of the Bishop's property at Holborn; tinction between the game of Irish gamyne (March 17th, and it was or making resistance to this spoliation that 1507) and the tables' which occur so constantly.”
Cox received this celebrated letter from the Queen:Tytler's Lives of Scottish Worthies, vol. iii. pp. 341-2, “ • Proud Prelate -You know what you were before I under “ Ancient Scottish Games and Amusements.”
made you what you are. If you do not immediately comI am in the dark as to all these queries, but ply with my request, by G– I will unfrock you. would suggest that " prop" may have been some
• ELIZABETH.'” sort of “ Aunt Sally" diversion, or else it may be I ask you, What authority is there for this a contraction of propulsion, and mean something letter? I believe it is not authentic. This was like“ putting the stone,” 'or of propounding or the opinion of the late Dr. Lingard. asking of riddles.
J. DALTOR. As to “ lang bowlis," I take it golf is meant, [No earlier authority has been found for this lettes especially as St. Andrew's is the scene ; or it may than the Annual Register of 1761, p. 15, where
it is said bave been football, called in Old England ba
to be “taken from the Register of Ely." Sir Harris lowne or balloon.
* R. K. is Richard Kingston, of whom see“ N. & Q." May“ kiles" be a misprint, or misreading for 3rd S. ii. 470; iii. 76, 199.-Ed.]