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POTATO AND Point. - In one of the Cumber- REVALENTA. The materials of this much-adland ballads by R. Anderson, whose Works bave | vertised article have excited some curiosity. I very lately been noticed in “ N. & Q.," I find the remember visiting Sir John Conroy's magnificent following lines :
establishment for breeding and feeding pigs at “ Dinnerless gång ae hawf o'the week;
Arborfield, near Reading. On asking about the If we get a bit meat on a Sunday,
food, I heard that the small African lentiles came She cuts me nae mair than would physic a sneype, into their diet. At my request a pint or two Then we've 'tatey and point every Monday.”
were given to me, and on my return home I had This is a reference to a common expression, them ground in a coffee-mill
, and made into por: very much in use in the northern counties, and is ridge. According to my judgment, the taste very
sed figuratively to imply very scanty fare: “We much corresponded with the article styled “Revashall have 'tateys and point to dinner.” On lenta.” It had a different appearance, being of a making inquiry into the origin of the expression, much darker colour. This appeared to be from I was told that it was the practice at a time when the rind, which was not removed. This lentile a duty upon salt made it much dearer than it is had a reddish tint, reminding of “that same red at present, and when that article got scarce in a pottage” (Gen. xxv.
v.30), that“ pottage of lentiles" household, for the persons round the table to (v. 34) of which we hear in connection with Esau. point the potato at the salt, or salt-cellar, as if to I merely write this as fact, and as a matter of my cheat the imagination. Has the expression any own experience, and not the least in disparageother origin ? And is it used in any of the other ment of Revalenta, which I have at times used parts of England. I think I have heard of it being with much satisfaction. FRANCIS TRENCH. used in Ireland, but cannot quote the authority. Islip, Oxford.
AUTHOR OF GRANDSIRE BOB. Besides the Boyle.- Mention is made in Debrett's Peerage, mysteries of Treble Bob, and all the Bobs, it under the title “Glasgow,” of Charles Boyle, the has been a mystery who was the first inventor of third son of the first earl ; without, however, any
such peals. particulars, save that he “died unmarried." I The following doggerel lines throw some light find it stated in the New York Council Minutes, on the subject. Though devoid of all elegance, Jan. 4, 1730-1, that the Honourable Charles Boyle they are interesting as a matter of history, and petitioned for a grant of land at Oyster Bay, on therefore may well be recorded in the world-wide Long Island, which had escheated to the crown in pages of " N. & Q.” They were first published consequence of the previous proprietor having in 1668 in the Art of Ringing by Fabian Steddied without heirs; and that he subsequently did maris, a work commended by Dr. Burney in his obtain a grant of said land. I presume he came History of Music. to New York with Gov. Montgomerie, another " Upon the Presentation of Grundsire Bob to the Colledge Scotcbman, about the year 1728. On the death
Youths by the Author of that Peal. of Gov. Montgomerie, in 1731, Mr. Boyle was one “Gentlemen of the noble crew, of the securities for Charles Home; who, as Of Colledge Youths — there lately blew nearest of kin, was appointed administrator. He
A wind, which to my noddle flew, was appointed Justice of the Peace and Quo
(Upon a daye, when as it snew,).
Which to my brains the vapors drew, rum for the county of Queens, April 6, 1738 ;
And there began to work and brew, and was still in the colony June 28, 1739, when Till in my Pericranium grew he again made application for an additional grant Conundrums, how some peal that's new of land.
E. B. O'C.
Might be compos'd; and to pursue
These thoughts (which did so whet and hew ARMY MOVEMENTS. — The “ changes of base" My flat invention) and to shew of the “ Army of the Potomac," and of the rebel What might be done, I strait withdrew “ Army of Virginia " during the past two years,
Myself to ponder — whence did accrue
This Grandsire Bob, which unto you remind one (says an American writer) of the
I dedicate; for there's but few Southern campaign of 1791, as described in a
Besides, so ready at their Queue song which was popular at the close of the Revo- (Especially at the first view) lutionary war:
To apprehend a thing that's new,
Tho' they'll pretend and make a shew,
As if the intricat'st, they knew,
What Bob doth mean, and Grandsire true,
And read the course without a clue
Of the new peal: yet tho' they screw
Their shallow brains, they'll ne'er unglue
The method on't: (and I'm a Jew
If I don't think this to be true),
They see no more on't than blind Hugh.
Well, let their tongues run Tityre tu,
Drink muddy Ale, or else French Lieue,
ANONYMOUS. - Who was the author of The
BLOTTING-PAPER. Can any one inform me
“R. R.” when blotting-paper came into use? I have reaGrandsire Bob consists of 720 changes, which son to believe, but the opinion requires confirmamay be rung or set down 1440 different ways. tion, that it was known on the continent of Europe H. T. ELLACOMBE, M.A. some time before it found its way into this coun
try. I shall be glad to have instances furnished SELF-ESTEEM OF THE ENGLISH.
me of the use of the substance or the occurrence from Hentzner's Travels, quoted at p. 429 of the of the name, or its equivalents (such as chartapresent volume of “ N. & Q.” to the effect, that bibula, Latin ; papier-brouillard, French; cartawhen the English see a foreigner very well made, sciuga and carta-sugante, Italian; Löschpapier, or particularly handsome, they say it is a pity he
German) before the year 1600.* GRINE. is not an Englishman, is curiously illustrated by a remark in the Relation of the Island of England,
Robert Burns, Jun. — In Watt's Bibliotheca written about 1500 by one of the Venetian am
Britannica, the following entry appears : bassadors, and edited, with a translation, for the “Burns (Robert) son of the celebrated Scotch Bard. Camden Society, by Miss Sneyd.
The writer The Caledonian Musical Museum, a complete Vocal Lisays that he has understood that
brary, 1809, 12mo."
Can “ The English are great lovers of themselves, and of
of your readers give me some informaeverything belonging to them; they think that there are tion regarding this work ?
Scotus. no other men than themselves, and no other world but
CHARTULARIES OF CARROW Abbey, Norwich : England; and whenever they see a handsome foreigner, they say that he looks like an Englishman," and "it NATHANIEL Axtell, Esq. — Dugdale, in his Mois a great pity that he should not be an Englishman." rasticon Anglicanum, mentions some chartularies of And when they partake of any delicacy with a foreigner, Carrow Priory, which was a Benedictine convent they ask him whether such a thing is made in their at a short distance from the city of Norwich, as country?'”—P. 21.
being in the possession of Nathaniel Axtell, Esq., The account given of us by this noble Venetian who was living, I believe, in the year 1712. Of is certainly not fattering; but it must be con- these valuable documents, I believe that all trace fessed that, as to the above point, the statements is now lost, but is anything known of Axtell ? of these two travellers, at the interval of a cen- and what became of his papers ? All that I can tury from each other, would probably even now, learn of him is that be presented to the united after the lapse of 250 years more, be confirmed in livings of St. Julian's and All Saints in Norwich, substance by most foreigners.
VEBNA. which were, during the monastic period, in the Beds And De Morgan.—Most of your readers presentation of the prioress of Carrow. As I am who are at all interested in chronology, will know gathering together all facts, &c., relating to this that the last of these writers has published thirty establishinent, I should be glad if any of your two Almanacs ; from which the student may turn thing concerning it would be kind enough to como
numerous readers who may chance to know anyout the Almanac of the year on which he is engaged, with the means of finding new moons, &c.
municate with me, either through the medium Not having this book, but wanting the informa
of your columns, or by letter to my address as under.
Edw. A. TILLETT. tion it conveys, I found in the first volume of Ven. Bede's Works wbat he calls twenty-eight
Carrow Abbey, Norwich. Circuli ; will some one tell me how I can use these
CAPNOBATÆ. Is anything known of the Scylast, so as to do without the “ Book of Almanacs?" thian Capnobatæ except from Strabo's casual men
MATHEMATICUS. Should this meet Mr. De Morgan's eye, I have tion of them ? no doubt he will be much amused to find that he
[* Fuller, who died in 1661, in his Worthies (Camhas been anticipated by Ven. Bede 1500 years bridgeshire) seems to allude to blotting-paper. He says, ago.
WM. Davis. “There are almost as many several kinds of paper as Oscott.
conditions of persons betwixt the emperor and beggar: imperial, royal, cardinal; and so downwards to that
coarse paper called emporetica, useful only for chapmen to Queries.
wrap their wares therein. Paper participates in some
sort of the characters of the countrymen which make it : ANONYMOUS.
the Venetian being neat, subtile, and courtlike; the
French light, slight, and slender; the Dutch, thick, cor“The Exhibition, or a Second Anticipation ; being remarks on the principal works to be exhibited next month, pulent, and gross; not to say sometimes also charta bibula, at the Royal Academy. By Roger Shanhagan, Gent.” sucking up the ink with the sponginees thereof." In an
“ Account of Stationery supplied to the Receipt of the London, 8vo, pp. 101.
Exchequer and the Treasury, 1666-1668," occur several Who was the author ? Joseph Rix, M.D. entries of "one and two quires of blotting-paper." Vide St. Neot's.
“N. & Q.” 1st S. viii. 104, 185.-Ed.]
John Guy, merchant of Bristol, in 1609, pub- 'Is this original, or transcribed from some lished a treatise on the plantation of Newfound- printed eulogies of that day? land, of which he subsequently became governor,
C. W. BINGHAM. There is extant a proclamation by him dated " ORBIS SENSUALIUM VIctus." Where can I Cooper's Cove, August 13, 1611, against abuses procure reliable bibliographical information reand bad customs by persons who used the trade specting the early editions of the Dano-Germanoof fishing in those parts. He and his family re- Latinus versions of the Orbis Sensualium Victus ? mained there two years. He especially aimed
John N. HARPER. at a trade with the Indians, and employed one Captain Whittington for the
POMEROY FAMILY.–Richard Pomeroy, of BowMr. Guy,
purpose. who was an alderman of Bristol, served the den, Esq., married Eleanor, daughter of John office of mayor of that city in 1618-19. (Pur- Cotter, Esq., Mapowder, Dorset, in the reign of chas's Pilgrims, ii. 1875-1877 ; Stow's Chron. ed. Henry VIII., and left two sons-Henry and John.
Can Howe's, 943; Barrett's Bristol, 177, 178, 688 ; any
readers inform me, if either of
W. S. Seyer's Bristol
. 259, 260; Pryce's Bristol, 485, them left descendants ? 620; Sainsbury's Cal. Col. State Papers, 20, 303; PROCESS AT BERNE. Bishop Burnet, in a Green's Cal. Dom. State Papers, James. I. iii. 19.) letter from Zurich, dated September 1, 1685, We desire to ascertain the title of his treatise, and states that he read at Berne the original process in the date of his death.
the Latin record, signed by the Notaries of the C. H. & THOMPSON COOPER. Court of Delegates, that the Pope sent to try COLONEL AND Mrs. Lucy HUTCHINSON. - At four Dominican friars accused of a blasphemous the time of the publication of The " Memoirs of cheat, for which they were burnt in a meadow on Colonel Hutchinson, by Mrs. Lucy Hutchinson,"
the other side of the river over against the great there was in possession of Mr. Jones, a solicitor, church at Berne, May 31, 1509. in addition to the Memoirs which were printed,
Query. Is the process referred to still
?. many other family papers, and also the portraits
at Berne? of Colonel Hutchinson and his wife. Information
Kingstown. is desired as to where such portraits and papers
THE PROPHET IN THE Passion MYSTERIES.are now to be found.
S. N. Brand (Popular Antiquities, vol. i. p. 130, Bohn's David Lamont, D.D., minister of Kirkpatrick, accounts of payments, in pre-reformation times,
edit.) gives several extracts from churchwardens' Durham, in Kirkcudbrightshire, and author of several volumes of sermons, was living in 1830.
to the prophet at the reading of the Passion.
Who was this prophet supposed to represent ? When did he die ?
S. Y. R.
Was he a character in the mystery or play of the BEQUEST FOR Rood Lorts. — William Bruges, Passion ? Or was he merely the reader of the Garter-King-at-Arms, London, by his will, dated Scripture describing that event ? M. C. 1449, left certain monies for the complesshyng
QUOTATIONS WANTED.and ending of the church of Staunford, that is
“ Life-what is life? but the immediate breath we draw: covering with lede, glassyng, and making of pleyn
Nor have we surety for a second gale. desques, and of a pleyn rode lofte, and in puying A frail and fickle tenement it is; of the seyd church nowit curiously, but pleynly; Which, like the brittle glass which measures time,
Is broke e'er half its sands are run." and in paving of the hole chirch body and quere with Holland tyle." Is there any earlier instance Can you inform me the author of the above than this of any one leaving a bequest for the lines ?
C. A. Newton. making of a rood loft? Bequests for pewing, &c., John Bowen ROWLANDS.
Can any of your readers tell me who is the
author of the following? When at Rugby, I MANUCEL, MAUNELL, OR MAWNELL.- I am remember its being given as a subject for Latin desirous of knowing the derivation of these sur- verse; and I have now copied it from the fly. names, and whether there are any instances of leaf of a book, where I then wrote it :their use.
“ Few the words that I have spoken,
True love's words are ever few; Melanchthon. — In my copy of Melanchthon's Yet by many a speechless token Lelters, Witebergæ, MDLXV., I find a MS. Epi
Haih my heart discoursed to you;
Souls that to each other listen, gram, viz. :
Hear the language of a sigh, “Quæritur arrodant quare tua scripta, Philippe,
Read the silent tears that glisten,
In the tender trembling eye.
When your cheek is pale with sadness
Dimmer grows the light of mine,
And your smiles of sunny gladness
In my face reflected shine. :
Though my speech is faint and broken,
curious compilation. Any information will oblige
“ Waffers, in his charming little poem, The Visitation, Who is the author of some lines on the pro
says, anticipating, Wordsworth’s ‘forty feeding like one':
• Unanimous in grief or fun, priety of grasping a nettle when plucking it? I
Ten talk, and laugh, and weep like one."" think the second verse begins :
P. 17. “ So it is with vulgar natures."
“ No one has sketched the weakly and the kindly M. S. points of the clergy more delicately than Walfers.".
P. 48. The following is quoted by a monthly periodical
(Literary Recollections, by an Old Reader. as an extract from “one of the Fathers :".
Can you inform me who Waffers was, and where “ Utilis lectio, utilis eruditio, sed magis utilis UNCTIO.” I can find The Visitation ?
O. A. E. I shall be glad learn in what work of the Fathers this is to be found ? GEORGE LLOYD.
WALLOON CHURCH, SOUTHAMPTON. – In Mr.
Burn's History of the Foreign Refugees (1846), I Could any of your readers give me the name find, at p. 80, under the heading Southampof the author of the following lines, and where I ton :". could find them?
“ At this town there was a settlement of the Walloons, “ God and the doctor we alike adore,
and also Refugees from the islands of Jersey, Guernsey, But only when in danger, not before;
and Sark, and the Orkneys.” The danger o'er, both are alike requited,
When, and under what circumstances, were these God is forgotten, and the doctor slighted.”
refugees driven from the islands here enumeT. C. B.
rated ? How came any refugees from the Orkneys "When Secker preaches, and when Murray pleads, to have anything to do with a Walloon or French The church is crowded, and the bar is thronged.” church at Southampton ?
WORKMAN'S MS., AND Pont's “Book of BlaRoLLo's First Wife. - Who was the father of zons.". Nisbet, in his well-known treatise on Poppée, Poppa, or Popa, the first wife of Rollo, Scotch Heraldry, makes reference to a manuscript Duke of Normandy ? Rapin (vol. i. p. 99) calls by some one of the name of Workman ; and also him Earl of Bayeux. Jules Janin (De la Nor- to a Book of Blazons by Mr. Pont. Will any of mandie, p. 10), calls bim Seigneur de Bayeux. your Scotch correspondents kindly inform me if What right had he to either of these titles ? these still exist ? In what form, and where deWhat became of his descendants ? Did they ever posited ?
FEDUS. become Viscomtes du Bessin ? MELETES. J. SHURLEY.-I possess a small volume entitled
Queries with answers. Ecclesiastical History Epitomiz'd. The work is in two parts. On the title of part i. it is stated to be
WASSAIL. Would you kindly give me the "collected by J. S. Gent. ;” and the introduction old recipe for wassail ? "I want to revive it in my to part ii
. is subscribed J. Shurley, but without family this year, but want a good old English any address or further reference. The first part recipe. Is it still made in Norfolk? Is their was printed in 1682, and the second part in 1683 recipe the same as the old ? A. W. TAYLOR. both parts being printed for William Thackeray, [The ingredients of the earlier Wassail Bowl, it would on London Bridge. To the second part there is a
seem, were not the same as those of a later period. In curious frontispiece, giving the fathers of the Re
Wharton's Anglia Sacra, i. 164, is a curious account of a formation seated round a table, while a figure there said that " the king was glad, and commanded that
visit of King Edgar to the Abbey of Abingdon. It is dressed in pontifical robes is attempting to blow hydromel (metheglin) should be abundantly supplied for out a candle which stands on the middle of the table, and this figure is supported by the Devil [* His Ecclesiastical History Epitomiz'd, 1682-3, is neither and other personages. I think it is very likely
in the Bodleian Library nor in that of the British Museum. that the first part had an illustrated title or frontis
The latter contains a copy of another work by him, en
titled, The Honour of Chivalry, or the Famous and Depiece. The work came into my possession in a lectable History of Don Bellianis of Greece. Translated very tattered condition, and possibly the frontis- out of Italian. In Three Parts. London, 4to, 1683. The piece had been lost.
preface to second and third parts is signed J. Shurley. ] Who was this J. Shurley? There is no mention [+ Nisbet (vol. i. p. 263) states that “the most exactest of him, nor of the work, in Bohn's edition of copy he had seen of James Pont's MS. Collections of the
Blazons of the Nobility and Gentry in Scotland in the Lowndes, nor can I find any mention of either in
year 1624, was in the House of Seton, where he died."-any bibliographical work in my possession. It is a Ep.]
the visitors to drink. What followed? The attendants which has divided the opinions of historians. The evidrew the liquor all day in full sufficiency for the guests; | dence produced by Braddon will be found in the following but the liquor itself could not be exhausted from the pamphlet, “ The Trial of Laurence Braddon and Hugh vessel, except a bandbreath, though the Northanhimbri Speke at the King's Bench on Feb. 7, 1684, for a Misdemade merry, and at night went home jolly!” Leaving meanor in suborning witnesses to prove the Earl of Essex the miraculous part of the story out of the question, it was murdered by his Keepers.” This pamphlet is reprinted appears (says Dr. Milner) that this was a true Wassail. | in Cobbett's State Trials, ix. 1127-1228. Braddon was ing bout, and that metheglin was the beverage made use fined 20001., and Speke 10001. His last work, although of on the occasion (Archaologia, xi. 421.) The metheglin, dated 1725, appears to have been printed just before his or mead, is a fermented liquor, of some potency, made death, which took place on Sunday, Nov. 29, 1724. It is from honey. Hence from a metheglin jollification of entitled, “Bishop Burnet's Late History Charg'd with thirty days after a wedding comes the expression so great Partiality and Misrepresentations, to make the familiar to the friends of a newly-married couple—the Present and Future Ages believe that Arthur Earl of Honeymoon.
Essex, in 1683, murdered himself. Lond. 8vo, 1725." In later times, however, the composition of the Wassail This is also reprinted in Cobbett's State Trials, ix. 1229. Bowl was ale, nutmeg, sugar, toast, and roasted crabs or 1332. Braddon presented a copy of this work to Sir Hans apples, which has also received the inore comfortable Sloane as appears from a laconic epistle preserved in the name of Lamb's Wool. The contents of the bowl are Addit. MS. 4038, p. 334:specified in the first verse of “The Wassaillers’ Song," “ To Sir Hans Sloane. I desire your acceptance of the still sung on New Year's Eve in Gloucestershire: - booke herewith presented by your most humble and most “Wassail! Wassail! all over the town;
“ LAURENCE BRADDOX. Our toast is white, our ale is brown; Our bowl is made of maplin tree,
[Month torn off ] the 25th, 1724.” We be good fellows ail - I drink to thee."
See more respecting Braddon and his controversies in In that pleasant brochure, Cups and their Customs, p. 36,
Ralph's History of England, i. 761-765; Nortli's Examen, occurs the following receipt for the Wassail Bowl:-"Put
1740, pp. 386-388; and Kippis's Biog. Britannica, iii. 229,
230.] into a quart of warm beer one pound of raw sugar, on which grate a nutmeg and some ginger; then add four glasses REV. JAMES STRUTHERS. About the close of of sherry and two quarts more of beer, with three slices of lemon; add some sugar, if required, and serve it with
the last century there arose a class of distinguished three slices of toasted bread floating in it.”]
preachers in Scotland; the first, and most eminent
for eloquence, and whose manners and appear. LAURENCE BRADDON. — I have a curious tract
ance were most captivating, was the Rev. James entitled
Struthers. He was admired and attended by all “ Particular Answers to the most Material Objections the higher classes of Edinburgh, and was conMade to the Proposal Humbly presented to His Majesty, for Relieving, Reforming, and Employing all the poor of temporary with Dugald Stewart, that amiable Great Britain. 1722,”
man and philosopher, John Playfair, &c. &c. He It bears no name upon the title, but the dedi
officiated on the Sundays in what was on all cation to the king is subscribed “ Laurence Brad
week days an amphitheatre of horsemanship,
situate in a curious and rather mean locality at don." The nature of the proposal made to the
the back of the “Black Bull Inn," formed by a king may be gathered from this work, but the
nook of houses at the head of Leith Walk, in proposal itself is not given, nor have I been able Edinburgh, and which was no thoroughfare to any to procure a copy. A reference is made in Bohn's edition of Lowndes tion of the interior on the Sunday ; and I have
part of the city. There was little or no transmutato Lawrence Braddon, who, besides other works, attended the performances in equitation on a is represented to be the author of “ The Tryal of Laurence Braddon and Hugh Speke, I have heard the most impressive addresses and
Saturday night, and ten or eleven hours afterwards, Gent., upon an Information of High Misdemeanour, Subornation, and spreading false Reports. 1684, folio."
prayers from Mr. Struthers; having been almost This would lead me to infer that the author squeezed to death to get admission. I believe Mr. of the tract is not the person referred to in
Struthers was succeeded by Dr. Thomas Chalmers Lowndes as the author of several works, and the and others, whose names it is unnecessary to respelling of the Christian name is different. Can capitulate. I beg to know if there be any memoir
extant of Mr. Struthers ? any of your readers give me information on this head, and also say where I can obtain further par- [The following notice of the death of this popular ticulars as to the Laurence Braddon who is the preacher is given in The Scots Magazine, Ixix. 560. author of the tract in my possession ? T. B.
“ Died on July 13, 1807, the Rev. James Struthers, in the
thirty-seventh year of his age, and sixteenth of his [The author of the tract on “ Employing all the Poor" | ministry in the Relief Chapel, College-street: a man is the same individual whose works are noticed by whose sound judgment, extensive information, liberal Lowndes. Mr. Laurence Braddon, a barrister, was en- sentiments, correct taste, impressive eloquence, elegant gaged in industriously collecting evidence to prove that manners, moral worth, and unaffected piety, will be ever Arthur Capel, Earl of Essex, had been murdered in the recollected with a strong mixture of pleasure and regret, Tower of London on July 13, 1683. The tragical end of by an uncommon number of friends and admirers." He the Earl is an occurrence which has never been satisfac- has also a passing notice in Henry Lord Cockburn's Metorily cleared up, and is one of those mysterious events morials of his Time, 8vo, 1856, p. 239: “Of our native