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certainly bore the same arms (without, of course, size. But they were of a dirty yellow brown the Scotch tressures) and whose very early members colour, and spotted for their whole length with had apparently no s at the end of their name, as brown spots of a darker shade. To my question, at present ; moreover, the early Christian names "What do you call those fish ?” I got the reply: of the English family were curiously similar to "Usses, sir” (or “Osses "). But neither my in. those given in the early accounts of the Scotch formant nor the fish-auctioneer nor his clerk, who family. I found an interesting seal in the London seemed to be men of better position and intelRecord Office of John Lyon, son of the above, ligence, could give me any explanation as to the which shows a bendlet dexter engrailed. Had this meaning or origin of the name, or even as to the any significance ?- as his son, Patrick Lyon, first correct spelling of it. Can any reader of 'N. & Q. Lord Glamis, bore no such bendlet.
throw any light on the subject ? W. Lyon.
EDWARD P. WOLFERSTAN. 7, Redcliffe Square, S.W.
Arts Club, Hanover Square, A MS. ITALIAN TRANSLATION OF VARILLAS. THE BLACK Flag.-How long has it been the --The historical works of Antoine Varillas are custom to hoist the black flag to signify that a relished for their piquancy, in spite of their dubious murderer has paid the last penalty ? veracity. Still, Bayle quotes largely from them.
C. E. GILDERSOME-DICKINSON. That these writings were esteemed by his contem.
Eden Bridge. poraries is shown by an Italian Ms. Translation of [Was it not on the adoption of private executions, the the History of Francis I.' which I have recently first of which took place on Aug. 13, 1868?] acquired. The preface is probably a version of that of the first edition, published at La Haye in Has Holman Hunt's picture “The Scape Goat'
"TAE Scape Goat,' BY HOLMAN HUNT. — 1684. The MS. is certainly in contemporary ever been reproduced in any of our illustrated writing, and is of that flowing Spanish type which magazines ; or is the large engraving the only copy had replaced the cramped calligrapby of an earlier
to be obtained ?
B. v. date. The translation fills two thick quarto volumes. Perhaps some reader of "N. & Q.' GUTTA-PERCHA.- Are the properties of guttamight be able to state, or to conjecture, who the percha such as will last ? I am told that in process translator was. I can find no mention of him in of time it crumbles away. Some Government seals Fontanini, Zeno, or Haym.
are now stamped on gutta-percha, and it would be EDWARD PERCY JACOBSEN.
interesting to know if this material is as durable as 18, Gordon Street, W.C.
the old wax formerly used.
A. Sussex HOUSE, FULHAM.—This house is said "THE ARMS OF LIONEL.”—Can any one kindly to have been called after Augustus Frederick, tell me what is meant by this expression, which I Duke of Sussex, sixth son of George III. Did the find in several Wardrobe Rolls of the fourteenth prince ever really live there ? If so, between what centary? It does not refer to the son of Edward years; and where can I ascertain any particulars III., for it occurs chiefly before his birth, and 28 to his life there! I should be glad, also, of when his shield is alluded to at a later period, it is any information touching Mrs. Billington's con identified by the addition of the words, “ the nexion with the house. The late Dr. Forbes King's son. Once it is “the 'arms of England Benignus Wilson for many years kept the house and Lyonel”; again, in 1333-4, a ball of Lumbard as an asylum for the insane. I should like to bordered with escocheons of the arms of Lyonel”; know when he went to reside there. Ho had, I in 1329, a gold cup with four "escocheons de believe, two asylums in West London. Can any arm' Leonelli in fundo.” The meaning of the term reader tell me the name of the second ? Was it
was evidently well understood at the time. Brandenburgh House, facing the Fulbam Palace
HERMENTRUDE. Road ? Kindly reply direct. Coas. Jas. FÈRET.
“CLICKING-TIME.”—I have been unable to find, 49, Edith Road, West Kensington.
in any Yorkshire glossary, the compound word
clicking-time, meaning twilight. It was first brought USSES OR Osses.Spending a few days lately under my notice, some weeks ago, in ordinary at Folkestone, I found myself constantly attracted conversation, and, recognizing it as a rara avis, I to the little fish-market at the eastern end of the made a note of it. Inquiries were then instituted town. The catch of fish, of many kinds, was most at three different places in Holderness (Swine, abundant, more especially of dog-fish, of which Burstwick, and Hollym), and patives of each place there were two species. One kind was of a uni. recognized the word as an old and familiar friend. form bluish grey; these were called “dogs.” One person said it was called “clicking-time The other was of almost precisely similar conforma- because, when she was a girl, the boys and girls tion, though running, perhaps, a trifle larger in used " ti click hod o'yan anuther" (catch hold of
one another). A second suggested that it was 80 named because then a brief rest was " clicked ”
Beplies. (snatched), that it was a sort of blind man's holiday. A third thought that the word was derived from
RESIDENCE OF MRS. SIDDONS IN
PADDINGTON, the clicking of the gossips' knitting needles, or the clacking of their tongues, as they exchanged con
(8th S. iii. 287, 396). fidences and discussed their neighbours' affairs Since making my inquiry on this subject I have over the garden hedge in the gloaming.
carefully examined the Crace collection of maps J. NICHOLSON.
and views in the British Museum, as well as every 50, Berkeley Street, Hull.
other available authority, with the view of satis
Con. 40TH REGIMENT.—Can any of your readers in- sidering that the building bas only disappeared
factorily determining the point at issue. form me whether there are portraits extant of the within little more than thirty years, it would not undermentioned officers of this regiment ?-General be supposed that the task would present much the Hon. Edward Cornwallis, uncle of the first difficulty ; but the great extension of building in Marquis Cornwallis, or of General Sir Brent Bayswater and Westbourne within recent yours, Spencer, G.C.B., of Egyptian and Peninsular fame? and the devastation committed by the Great Also, can any one furnish me with particulars or Western Railway, render the identification of sites anecdotes connected with this regiment, from family in those districts no easy matter. Another elepapers, letters, &c. ?
ment of doubt consists in the frequent changes that MARINE ANIMALS IN NORTHERN LATITUDES.
bave occurred in street nomenclature, of which I Io Adamnan’s ‘Life of St. Columba,' bk. ii. cb. xlii., shall give an instance farther op. is an account of a voyage of one Cormac and his
The first question to determine seemed to be the companions, when for fourteen days in summer site of Westbourne Manor House, in the vicinity they had sailed northward, so far, as it seemed, of which the modern house known as Westbourne that they had got beyond the limits of human Place, of which Westbourne Farm was an appendwanderings. On the fourteenth day they were age, was subsequently built. According to Lysons,* greatly terrified by swarms of some unknown
Westbourne Place was built by Isaac Ware, the creatures :
architect, a little to the south of the old house, “Occurrerant tetræ et infestæ nimis bestiolæ, quæ After several changes of ownership, it became the
which was suffered to stand some years longer. horribili impetu carinam et latera, puppimque et proram ita forti feriebant percussura, ut pelliceun
tectum navis property, in 1800, of Mr. Samuel Pepys Cockerell, penetrales putarentur penetrare posse.
Quæ, ut qui who resided in it till his death in 1827. In the inerant ibidem postea narrarunt, prope magnitudinem memoir of Cockerell contained in tbe . Dict. Nat. ranarum, aculeis permolestæ, non tamen volatiles sed Biog.' the house is called Westbourne Lodge, Datatiles, erant; sed et remorum infestabant palmulas."
but the fact that Westbourne Place was Cockerell's The story seems to be founded on known facts. residence is confirmed by J. T. Smith, in his What could the bestiolo have been ? Are there Nollekens and his Times,' vol. ii. p. 209. Lysons swarms of cuttle-fish in northern seas ; and would
goes on to say that "pear Westbourne Place is an they cling on to the oars, &c. ? J. T. F.
elegant cottage, the property of Mr. Cockerell, and Bp. Hatfield's Hall, Durham.
for some years past the residence of Mrs. Siddons, TENERIFFE OR TENERIFE.—I shall be glad to who has expended a considerable sum upon its imknow which is correct. JOAN LANGLEY. provement and decoration.” Campbell says that
Mrs. Siddons came into occupation of the bouse in SIR STEPHEN EVANCE.-Can any of your con- April, 1805, and she had therefore resided in it tributors say who were the parents of Sir Stephen for six years when Lysons wrote in 1811. Evance, of St. Edmund's the King and Martyr, Gutch's map of 1828, Bartlett and Butler's map Lombard Street; or where I can see a better pedi. of 1834, and Lucas's map of 1847, do not show gree than the incomplete one in the Visitation of Westbourne Place, but they agree in marking the London ? A. EVANCE, F.R.G.S. site of Westbourné Manor House as lying to the
north and slightly to the east of the second canal "THE BRITISH KNIGHT ERRANT.'-In Messrs. (vol. iii. p. 935) is entered “The British Knight to be Mrs. Siddons's residence, subsequently known Boase and Courtney's Bibliotheca Cornuhiensis: bridge on the Harrow Road. To the south of the
large bouse is a smaller building, wbich I assume Errant. A tale in two volumes. Lond., priated
as Desborough Lodge or Desborough Cottage. for W. Lane, Leadenball Street, 1790. 12mo., pp. 163 and 154"; and appended is the note, applied to two parcels of land lying north and
On Gutch's map the term “Desboroughs" is "The scene is laid at Launceston Castlo.". I bave south of the canal, and situated immediately to been unable to trace a copy of this in the British Museum Library. Is there known to be one in * *Environs of London,' second edition, 1811, vol. ii. existence ?
DUNHEVED. pt, ii. pp. 599, 600.
the eastward of the Manor House boundaries. which I have shown was built over before 1847. The grounds of the Manor House were apparently The conclusion I have arrived at is that Westcomprised within the triangle of which the apex is bourne Farui, subsequently known as Desborough the church of St. Mary Magdalene and the base Lodge or Desborough Cottage, was situated at, or the Harrow Road, Clarendon Street and Ciren. close to, the present Desborough Street, and that it cester Street forming respectively the western and could not have been destroyed to make room for the eastern sides. The “Desboroughs” lay still fur-Great Western Railway, as Cunningham asserts. I ther to the eastward, and Desborough Lodge must, must, however, in fairness state that this conclusion I thipk, have occupied the site of a small street, is to some extent based on two assumptions. The or rather a cul-de-sac, which practically forms an first is that Westbourne Place, the residence of enclave of Cirencester Street, near the Harrow Mr. Cockerell, was identical with the Westbourne Road, and is still known as Desborough Street. Manor House of the maps. The second is that
The view that Mrs. Siddons's residence lay on Westbourne Farm, the residence of Mrs. Siddons, the northern or right-hand side of the Harrow was identical with Desborough Cottage, the reRoad as you proceed to Harrow is confirmed by sidence of Charles Mathews and Madame Vestris. the facsimile of a letter from Charles Mathews, in Neither of these assumptions is proved, but I think my possession, dated “Westbourne Green, Aug. 21, the evidence is all in favour of their correctness. 1845," at the bottom of which is a rough sketcb, It is just possible that Westbourne Place was on indicating to a friend with whom an appointment the site of a large enclosed piece of land, with a bad been made the whereabouts of the house, bouse, marked as Westbourne Park upon the maps. which is called by Mathews “Desborough Cottage.” This house was situated at the southern portion of To the left of the picture is a distant view of the Westbourne Green, to the westward of the present church of Harrow-on-the-Hill, while to the right Porchester Road, on laod now occupied by Westof the spectator the gables of the cottage appear bourne Park Road and the adjacent thoroughfares. above a belt of shrubs and trees which surmount If this view is correct, Mrs. Siddons's cottage may the garden palings. The mile-and-a-half stone possibly have been swept away by the Great from Tyburn Turnpike (no longer existing) is de- Western Railway ; but as all the authorities state picted in the right foreground. It is clear from that it was in close vicinity to the land now the sketch that the cottage was on the northern occupied by the Lock Hospital, I do not think it side of the main road.
could have been so far distant as Westbourne Park, MR. GRIFFINHOOFE's suggestion that Desborough and I have come across no evidence that corroboLodge may have been somewhere on the site of rates any view except that which I have accepted. Desborough Place is not, I think, confirmed by the
W. F. PRIDEAUX, maps. On the earlier ones the site of Desborough Desboroughs is marked on the plan of PaddingPlace and the adjacent streets is occupied by a ton parish, 1838 (not 1828 as printed). I rememportion of Westbourne Green, but in Lucas's plan ber the house where Madame Vestris lived being of 1847 the land is built over, and must bave pre- pointed out to me about the end of the forties. It sented much the same appearance as it does at lay a little off the Harrow Road (which bere runs present. Hampden Street, Waverley Road, and northwards), on the east side, on the south of the Brindley Street are clearly marked, but the whole canal. Access to the house was by a carriage of the present Marlborough Street is shown as drive. The Lock Hospital is built on the north of Desborough Terrace. Subsequently the portion of the canal, and on the west side of the Harrow this street which faces the railway was called Des- Road. Westbourne Manor House was on the borough Place, and the remainder Marlborough opposite side of the Harrow Road to the hospital, Place. The whole has now been renamed Marl- and also beyond the canal. borough Street, and Desborough Place has dis
Copies of Mr. Gutch's plan, and also a large appeared. Marlborough Street means nothing, plan of the district engraved for the now defunct whereas the original name of Desborough Terrace Commissioners of Sewers for Westminster, &c., partook of the nature of a landmark in indicating in 1840, can be seen at the library of the Royal the site of old Desborough House, which I Institute of British Architects, No. 9, Conduit judge from the maps must have been in existence Street, W. as late as 1834. Mr. Walford, in his ‘Old and Now Which was the house or the houses named WestLondon,' states that some vestiges of the old house bourne Place ?—a property which belonged about are apparent in Desborough Place (now Marl- 1749 to Isaac Ware, architect, who erected his borough Street), but I have failed to find any. house with old materials brought from Lord
As Robins, in his 'Paddington, Past and Pre-Chesterfield's house in May Fair (Lysons, ‘EDsent,' says that Desborough Lodge was in existence virons,' 1795, iii. 330). It was bought by another as late as 1853, it could not have been situated on architect, Samuel Pepys Cockerell, who was the site of the block of houses “on the north side residing there in 1796. Was Westbourne Place of the railway and east of Royal Oak Station," the same as Westbourne Manor House ; or did it
apply to the portion called Desboroughs in this France attached to it, just as Dr. WOODWARD saw inquiry? Lygons does not mention the Manor them in 1890. The shield of No. 18, however, House or Desboroughs, though he describes West-correctly shows the arms of Portugal, and conbourne Place.
WYATT PAPWORTH. sequently Baedeker is right with regard to this It is very kind of the Bayswater Chronicle, 1884,
lady. to ascribe to “a visitor" my remarks about the about it that No. 8 was meant for the Arthur of
The author does not seem to have any doubt above house, which I well remember, and especially the very words in which I describe it in the legend. The tomb as originally designed was
Old and New London,' comparing it to a “rural to be on a larger scale than the present one, and vicarage.” My friend MR. GRIFFINHOOFE will find was to be surrounded by forty statues of the same a back-front view of the old house, with the poplar
dimensions as the present twenty-eight. Of the forty trees in sight, at p. 216 of vol. v. (not vi.) of my milian claimed thirty-eight as belonging to his
persons whom the statues were to represent, Maxi. work, and my description of it on pp. 214, 215. He will also see there what is said about' Des: family, circle, the two exceptions being the two borough Place. E. WALFORD, M.A.
illustrious knights represented by the pair of statues Ventpor.
attributed to Vischer, namely, King Arthur of
England and Theodoric, King of the Ostrogoths, INNSBRUCK HOFKIRCHE (8th S. ii. 81, 162, 211, who, according to the author, were merely invited 221, 315, 349, 409, 491). Since sending you my guests. Of course, some modern genealogists last note on this subject, I have rediscovered a kind would greatly reduce the number of Maximilian's of semi-official account of the history of Maxi- ancestors ; but we must not forget the fact that milian's tomb by Dr. Schönherr, in vol. xi. of the genealogists at the beginning of the sixteenth cenJabrbuch der kunst-historischen Sammlungen tury. were not so strict as those of our days, and des oesterreichischen Kaiserhouses' (1890, pp. 140- hence the many imaginary pedigrees which have 268). The account is extremely interesting and been prepared for Maximilian, and are preserved very elaborate, and is founded on original research in the imperial archives, must be viewed in the among the various rich MS. collections of the spirit of the old emperor's times. Some of these imperial house of Austria. The author gives a list pedigrees, notably those illustrated by the "old of the twenty-eight large statues surrounding the masters," have been published in past volumes of emperor's tomb, supplying, professedly, the names the 'Jahrbuch. They show numerous princes of the persons whom they were intended to repre- with shields charged with a lion rampant and sent from documentary sources, but unfortunately others quartering the three batrachia with the three following too closely Baedeker's list and without Aeurs-de-lye. DR. WOODWARD calls the former taking the least trouble to notice the heraldic frogs ; but were they not really meant for toads devices on the shields, and consequently without (crapauds) ? attempting to explain the glaring discrepancies The author publishes also reproductions of somo since pointed out in 'N. & Q.'
designs for statues prepared by Gilg Sesselschreiber, The names of the first seventeen statues agree the artist of several statues in the group, and by with Dr. WOODWARD's list, with the exception of others. One of these sketches (not carried out) No. 4, which is given as “ Duke Albrecht II., the represents the Eoglish hero-king holding a shield Wise," though the arms are those of an emperor. charged with the arms of France and England Then follow, after Kunigunda :
quarterly, and on & shield of_pretence a lion 18. Eleanor of Portugal, mother of Maximilian. rampant, probably meant for Hapsburg, as the 19. Mary of Burgundy, bis first wife.
sketch bears the inscription, “Kuenig Artus zu 20. Elizabeth of Hungary, wife of “King” Eongellandt, Grave zu Habspurg.". This proves Albrecht II.
beyond doubt that the artist meant to represent 21, Godfrey of Bouillon.
the King Artus of the legend, and that he was 22. “King” Albrecht I., in spite of the arms of under the impression that Arthur of Caerleon was
a Count of apsburg and an ancestor of Maxi23. Frederic IV., Duke of Austria and Count of milian. Another drawing shows a design for a Tyrol (“ with the empty pockets").
statue of Bianca Maria. The arms assigned to 24. Leopold III., Duke of Austria. And omitting her are a quartered shield, with an eagle displayed the next three, wbich are the same as in DR WOOD in the first and last, and the Visconti guivre in the WARD's list,
intermediate quarters and on an inescutcheon & 28. “King” Albrecht II., though the arms are cross argent (?). not those of an emperor. Pbotographic repro- As regards the shield of statue No. 28, I have dactions of a dozen of the large statues are given already stated in a previous note that history in the volume. That of Arthur is shown without knows only one Albert, King of Hungary and a shield, and that of Philip
the Good, of Burgundy Bohemia. As he was also King of the Romans, (No. 14), has the quartered shield of England and there is not the slightest doubt that he is repre
sented by statue No. 22. But if we removed the Christ's. He became a minister at Kingston-onshield from No. 28 there would be some difficulty Thames, but having got into trouble, from alleged in finding a rightful owner for it among the persons complicity with the Martinists, he was silenced represented by the other statues in the group. there, and being invited to Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Hence I would suggest that it was intended either lived and laboured in that town for something for Elizabeth of Hungary (No. 20) or more pro like a year. 'Diotrephes' and 'A Demonstration bably for an effigy of her son, Ladislaus V., wbich of Discipline' are attributed to his pen. Udal was to be included in the group and was actually was summoned back to London to answer for his cast, but condemned and not set up in the group. opinions, was committed to prison, and, at one The design of the coat armour of the figure was time, condemned to execution ; he was, however, considered too poor, and, owing probably to the spared to die the natural death of a broken heart sluggishness of the metal, the statue came out of in the Marshalsea, in 1592 or 1593. Thomas the mould full of holes. Of course I do not mean Cartwright, who has been called “the head and to infer that the arms as depicted on the shield most learned" of the early Puritans, was for a attached to No. 28 were ever borne by either while his fellow captive. Elizabeth or her son.
The full title of my libel, or libellus, is as follows: One more example to show how the artists
An Answere to a Certaine Libel Supplicatorie, or rather employed by Maximilian and bis executors treated Diffamatory, and also to certaine Calumnious Articles, heraldry. One of the forty statues included in the and Interrogatories, both printed and scattered in secret original design was to be that of King Stephen I., corners to the slaunder of the Ecclesiasticall state, and the Saint, of Hungary, for which a sketch was pre- put forth under the
name and title of a Petition directed pared by Christopher Amberger. The drawing is to her Maiestie: Wheroin not onely the frijolous dis
course of the Petitioner is refuted, but also the accusareproduced in the Jahrbuch,' and shows the king tion against the Disciplinarians his clyents iustified, and with a shield: Quarterly, 1 and 4, barry of eight, the slaunderous cauils at the present gouernment dis2 and 3, a triple mount surmounted by a patri- ciphered by Mathew Sutcliffe. archal cross. Stephen reigned from 1000 to 1038, I fear me I was wrong in writing aforetime as and, of course, so far as we know, bad no coat of arms. though this work had been specially evoked by the There are important documents extant of the reign publications of Udal and Cartwright, for great is of one of his successors, Béla III. (1173-1196), on the mystery of the Marprelate business, and I am which the royalseal is still without the slightost trace not its soothsayer. Some former owner of my of any heraldic device. The oldest representation copy, who I naturally concluded was better inof the arms of Hungary appears on a deed of King formed than myself, wrote “Sutcliffe's Ang? to Imre (Emericus) of the year 1202; it shows barry of Udal and Cartwright" on the fly-leaf opposite the nine, gules and argent, the four upper strips of the title-page, and I too rashly accepted his conclusion. field either being charged with nine lions passant Udal and Cartwright do, indeed, receive ugly (three, three, two, one), or probably only diapered rubs from Sutcliffe, but they are only two out of and the diapering mistaken for lions. The oldest many whom he attempts to chastise; and unless known use of the patriarchal cross as an heraldic they wrote the Certaine Libel,' the authorship of device dates from the year 1243, but the arms which is hidden from me, 'An Answere' cannot barry of eight quartered with the patriarchal cross have been mainly addressed to them. Satcliffe surmounting the triple mount, as shown by the assumes no manner of doubt touching its origin. artist, according to our present knowledge, were He says: not borne by any king before Ladislaus V., who
“ The writer of this Libel is wel knowen; I would he reigned from 1440 to 1457, that is more than four so well knewe himselfe. His bedlem fits also, and helpers centuries after the death of Stephen I.
he had in his writing, are knowen.”—P. 104. One interesting item of information in Dr. Schön. A very undecent thing it seemeth to me, that a man berr's account is that Arthur's and Theodoric's not conuersant in studio of diuinitie should teach statues, after being cast in 1513, were pawned, and gouernors, and lawes: that a man lately distracted of
diuines, that a disordered companion should controll remained in pawn for some years until the Imperial his wit should teach law and order, neither knowing Exchequer could find money to redeem them. order, nor lawe.”—Preface, B 3.
L. L. K.
I do not know to which member of the early "CANARY BIRD,” AN OPPROBRIOUS TERM (8th Puritan party such innuendoes best applied. CopS. i. 109, 198, 339; ii. 378, 433; iii. 395). --The Jobp pinger was somewhat of an enthusiast, and believed Udal referred to by Sutcliffe in 1692 is said to bave that the Holy Spirit gave him many strange direcbeen the wortby whom James I. complimented at tions (Bancroft's 'Dangerous Positions,' p. 144, the expense of all contemporary European scholars; ! &c.); but I am not aware that the cause was nevertheless, Sutcliffe was pleased to characterize indebted to him for any literary support. Heory him as "a man utterly unlearned and very factious.” Nicholas, of the “Family of Love," must bave bad He was a Cantab, who graduated from Trinity, a screw loose somewhere, and I have wondered if, though he began his collegiate career as a sizar at in 1592, Sutcliffe thought he had him to deal with,