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that in all it bears the same Hebrew name which take, but after the courteous and convincing comhas come down along with it from the remotest munication of MR. Morgan, the matter might antiquity. The word potsherd, which occurs oc- well be allowed to drop; while Mr. Cuming's casionally in the Old Testament, chayrass, won services to archæology, in exposing the long series (Isaiah, xxx. 14; Job, xi. 8; Ps. xxii. 16), although
of London forgeries, ought to have dictated a very
different tone of comment.
This is the more remarkable, as the communi
cation of ANGLO-Scotus contains some of the one of those sagars. Another accomplished Hebrew scholar tells me that although the Hebrew word
strangest errors I ever saw, for potsherd is van, chay-rass, he is by no means
1. He objects to Mr. Cuming calling the noble
man who was slain at Dumfries his great ancestor, sure that it is not derived from some Semitic and quotes the perfectly accurate statement of word like sa-char, or sa-gar; for if the letters of Mr. Riddell
, that the descendants of that noblechay-rass (Heb.) were transposed they would make man failed in the direct line. Was, however, the say-char.
word ancestor ever confined to the direct lino I am not, as I have said, sufficiently acquainted alone ? with Hebrew to form an opinion for myself, but Shakespeare is an authority to the contrary. the antiquity of the name for this peculiar article Take the speech of the Archbishop of Canterin the manufacture of earthenware is corroborative of that absence of change which is so remark- bury in Henry V. Act I. Sc. 2.:
“ Gracious Lord, able in the potter's art during the revolution of
Stand for your own, unwind your bloody flag, ages, the principal contrivance employed, the
Look back unto your mighty ancestors. potter's wheel, being essentially the same to-day, Go, my dread Lord, to your great grandsire's tomb, in Staffordshire and Sevres, as it is described in From whom you claim. Invoke his warlike spirit, ancient writings and depicted on the monuments And your great uncle's, Edward, the Black Prince." of Egypt. J. EMERSON TENNENT. 2. A reference to plate 2, of the arms of the
encouragers of his work, in vol. i. of Nisbet's TAMALA AND TÂMRAKUTTAKA, SANSKRIT WORDS Heraldry, will show that the crowned and winged FOR TOBACCO (4th S. i. 517.)- The word Tamala heart was the crest of the Dukes of Queensberry. is undoubtedly good Sanskrit for tobacco, of ortho- As wings are also attached to the spur of the dox usage, or it would not have been introduced Johnstones, I suspect they were originally what by a learned Brâhmin, of respectable character, Nisbet calls the border, charged with roses of the into an Achloka, purporting, to the best of my old Earls of March, viz. a badge of comital office, récollection and belief, to have been extracted although they were subsequently adopted, or from one of the Purânas. Will any of your rather retained, by the families of younger sons. readers to whom I may have communicated the I have sometimes conjectured that they were supposed discovery when in India kindly return allied to the dragon wing of the eastern counties, any memoranda they may have of mine upon both being derived from a Danish ensign. Certhe subject. Jaya Deva, the author of the Mys- tainly that nation had strong settlements in the tical Poetry, quoted by SATJAM JAYATI, was an in- eastern counties, while a great number of the habitant of Bardwân, adjoining the Tamluk Dis- local names in Annandale are derived from their trict, and Tamâla, as applied by him, may have language. I, however, throw out this idea merely meant tobacco fields, which would tend to con- as a vague guess, which may be true or may not firm the derivation Tamala Mulk, given for the Having heard Mr. Cuming read his paper, I name of the fort and city Tamluk, on the coast near
can testify that he gave the Douglases of Cavers Calcutta. Will SATJAM JAYATI, who tells us that their proper title. The introduction of the 1 is tobacco is called Tamrakuttaka, after its foreign simply an overlooked error of the press. name, in Wilson's Dictionary, be good enough to
GEORGE VERE IRVING. explain what is meant by saying there is no word in Sanskrit for tobacco, and that the word tamala Having examined MacFarlane's authorities cannot possibly occur in any Sanskrit work? (England, iv. 239), I find he has used the word
R. R. W. ELLIS. hearts for harts. The same error is in the Pictorial Starcross, near Exeter.
History of England (ii. 16).
“ Shee secretly gaue silver and gilt Harts (the badges DOUGLAS RINGS: THE DOUGLAS HEART.
which King Richard used to bestow upon his followers)
as tokens."— Speed, lib. ix. p. 758. (4th S. i. 462, 562.)
Fecitque fabricari cervos argenteos et auratos pluriIt was with extreme pain and regret that I
mos (signa videlicet quæ rex Ric. conferre solebat suis read the article by ANGLO-Scotus on this subject. facilius allicerentur in vota sua milites illius patria, cae
militibus scutiferis et amicis) ut his vice regis distributis, There is no doubt that Mr. Cuming made a mis- terique valentes."—Walsingham, p. 370.
Not in Otterbourne, i. 248.
beard does not “demonstrate thinly," as Iago
I have besides this the impression of two other
oval-shaped, of James I. and his queen Anne, evi-
dently of the same workmanship. Here the king's
head is uncovered, and the collar of the Order of (4th S. i. 568.)
the Garter is of a different pattern. Over the I possess a silver piece, said to have been en- heads is a crown with the initials I. R. and A: R. graved by Simon Passe, similar to that described Underneath, " Jacobus D. G. Mag. Britt. Fra. & as having been recently found at Grantham. The Hyb. Rex," and " Anna, D. G. Mag. Britt. Fra. & figure on the reverse, which MR. J. A. BOASE Hyb. Regina.” states is Henry Stuart, Prince of Wales, is, I be- On the sides "Pfe.” (Simon Pass). The whole lieve, intended for King James's son Charles. The written backwards, which leads one to suppose person represented wears a pointed beard of con- that the medal thus engraven was not intended siderable size, and large curled mustachio, and is for reproduction on paper. It is very finely exealtogether very unlike a youth of eighteen (Henry cuted. was born in 1594, and died in 1612). The medal, I have several other curious engravings of if it may be so termed, was, I imagine, engraved James I. Amongst others, a small one where he at the latter end of the reign of James I., when is represented with “Geo. Villiers, Mar. BuckingCharles, Prince of Wales, was twenty-four or ham, drawn from the window, and engraved by twenty-five years of age. The “king's son W. P. Sherlock. Upper compartment of a window the medal above referred to bears a strong resem. in the Chicken House, Hampstead.” Under the blance to King Charles I. as represented on another king's head is written in French : “Icy dans cette piece engraved by Passe which I bave before me, chambre coucha nostre Roy Jaques premier de and is certainly the same person that is depicted nom le 25 Aoust 1619.” Does this window still in an old oil portrait belonging to me, which I exist ?
P. A. L. take to be Charles, Prince of Wales. I do not remember any bearded portrait of Prince Henry, St. Thomas A 'BECKET (4th S. i. 604.)-I reply and I think all those exhibited at Kensington in to F. S. A. that a chasuble of St. Thomas is pre1866 were beardless. If my supposition is unfounded, I shall be glad to be corrected by Mr.
served at Courtrai, another at Dixmude, and a
set of his vestments at Sens. (See The Life of Boase or by any other gentleman who may be able St. Thomas Becket by Canon Morris, p. 389.) In to furnish any information as to the time at which
a former No. of “N. & Q.” (2nd S. v. 242) he the piece was engraved.
E. D. E. will find a communication by the undersigned,
minutely describing one of the saint's mitres, then This medalet, which I also possess, I thought in the possession of the late Cardinal Wiseman, until now represented on the reverse the effigy, and now preserved by his successor Archbishop not of Henry, the eldest son of James I., as stated Manning, and mentioning another of his mitres as by MR. JOHN J. A. BOASE, but of the still more
still remaining in the cathedral of Sens. hapless Prince Charles (the ill-fated Charles I.) The very interesting old cope formerly belongwith his peculiarly shaped nose (thick at the end, inġ to Syon House I carefully examined about like his father's), and the well-known turned-up twenty years ago, at Alton Towers. It was then mustachio and pointed beard. May I be allowed to in the possession of John, Earl of Shrewsbury, give my reasons for so thinking ? I have lying He bequeathed all his magnificent collection of before me a portraiture of that promising young
church vestments to the Very Rev. Dr. Rock. man Henry, Prince of Wales, a mezzotinto en
F. C. H. graving by Dunkarton. The prince is in armour; A-Becket's chasuble is probably at present in his head uncovered, in profile, without any beard ; the treasury of the Cathedral of Sens, France, the legs outstretched, and making the lance exer- where many of his objects are, and where his cise. Underneath is written:
mitre may likewise be. The “Syon cope" is “ Henry Prince of Wales, Eldest Son of King James exhibited at, and is the property of, the South I“, Obit Nove 6th 1612, Æt. 18, from an extreine rare Kensington Museum.
A. S. C. print by S. Pass."
The chusable of St. Thomas of Canterbury is At that age, in fact, he must have been a preserved at Sens Cathedral. In 1164 that pre“beardless Apollo," whereas on the medal the late was obliged to fly from England and tako
refuge in France, where he remained till 1170. give the eighteen forms which it assumes. They Though much injured, enough remains to show are : sain 8, saint 8, sainte : (in Sainte Thérèse, les the beauty and magnificence of the vestment. A saintes vierges), sein 8, scigne 8, je ceins, ceint 8, mitre and apparel of the amice belonging to the ceinte 8, (de) cing. The doubt with me is, if the same set are also preserved. The chusable is French have cinqs as they have uns, and as we annually worn during mass on his festival. Beau- have fives at cards, for instance. I only regarded tiful drawings of these vestments are given by complete words, but I think P. A. L. was right Mr. Shaw in his valuable work, Dresses and De- in including syllables. So, to his cin in "capucin' corations of the Middle Ages.
I add sin in “ sincère," and sim in “simplicité,”. The cope of the earlier part of the thirteenth thus bringing the whole number up to nineteen or century, formerly belonging to the nuns of Syon twenty. Perhaps P. A. L. is aware that the seven House, is in the collection of the Earl of Shrews- forms I mentioned are those of verbs in er, as bury. The hood is lost, but the orphrey is com- aimer, aimez, aimai, aimé s, aimée s. posed of armorial bearings, and on the body the
Thos. KeIGITLEY. crucifixion of our Lord, SS. Peter and Paul, St.
ADRIAN'S ADDRESS TO HIS SOUL (4th S. i. 603.) Michael the Archangel, St. Stephen, and other Allow me to correct a mistake of the printer in saints are beautifully wrought in large intersect- the Latin of the above. In the original, the first ing quatrefoils. Papers by Mr. C. H. Hartshorne, word in the fourth line is “ Jallidula,”' and so I giving much curious information on English me
sent it. It is meant for Gelidula, and I have diæval embroidery will be found in the Archæo- translated it by cold. The printer' has made it logical Journal, i. 334 and iv. 285. At Aix-la-Chapelle a cope is preserved in the Pallidula, which finds no corresponding word in
F. C. H. sacristy of the cathedral, with small silver bells attached to the lower edge. This is said to have DIDO AND ÆNEAS (4th S. i. 579.)— The lines been worn by Leo III. at the consecration of the are by James Smith of Rejected Addresses fame, church, in the presence of the Emperor Charle- and are to be found in his Memoirs, Letters, and magne, assisted by three hundred and sixty-five Comic Miscellanies, edited by his brother Horace, bishops. Mr. Walcott (Sacred Archæology, 183), 1840, vol. ii. p. 193. They are given with slight says one at Canterbury had a little chime of one variations in The Life and Remains of Theodore hundred and forty in 1108, and others sent by Hook, by Barham, 1849, vol. i. p. 229, where they William I. to Clugoy, or presented by Lanfranc, are characterised as “Mr. Smith's happiest effort," Ernulph, and Conrad to their minister, were so and are stated to have been sent by the author to ornamented. I shall be glad to hear of other Count D'Orsay with the following note: examples. JOHN PIGGOT, Jux., F.S.A. “My Dear Count,-Will you give me Gallic immor
tality by translating the subjoined into French ?" CURIOUS ORTHOGRAPHIC FACT (4th S. i. 571.)
H. P. D. Will you allow me to answer, as a Frenchman, to
CHARLES II.'s FLIGHT FROM WORCESTER (4th the above? The monosyllabic sound which in s. i. 593.)—I had not time to complete a short French may be written in sixteen or seventeen list of some passages in the Wolverhampton different ways, is an, or en. I send you twenty
“ Boscobel” when I sent my reply, printed on eight ways of writing it, and I am pretty sure I have not given all:
p. 593. I send them now.
At pages 18 and 24 the Lord Wilmot who at-
tended the king, and was afterwards Earl of
" This Rochester, is confounded with his son. baranguants
nobleman was the famous and dissolute Earl of gant
onguent Rochester.” (P. 24.) He was father of that gants
noted person. paon
At p. 24 the vale of Evesham is described as paons
the vale of Esham. At p. 39 the two well-known bancs
lines out of Drunken Barnaby's Itinerary are misamp champ
rudiment quoted thus:amps. champs
“He bung his cat on Monday ang rang emps. temps.
For killing a mouse on Sunday." angs. rangs In the word itself we have em, as in emporium, naby's Itinerary. At p. 28 we read :—“Trent
The writer makes no mention of Drunken Barand many other; I believe there are altogether House
is situated in Somersetshire, thirty-four ways of writing en.
though bordering on the skirts of Devonshire." As P. A. L. seems to wish to know it, I will state It is really situated on the other side of the county, that the French sound I had in mind was that of on the skirts of Dorsetshire." sain ; and as I presume it will gratify him, I here At page 48 we read :-" The next year, 1663,
an ans en ens ant ants aon aons anc ancs
uant. dants uent vents eant eants
witnessed the rupture with Holland. The Dutch Town Council and Guildry records are generally fleet triumphantly sailed up the Thames and burnt better kept, but hundreds of these volumes are the ships of war which lay at Chatham.”
also in a state of decay. This seems to give 1663 as the date of the In Ireland most of the parish registers have first Dutch triumph. It occurred in June, 1667. been lost. The Cathedral records are kept in
The retaining such matter as this in the second the buildings, and have generally contracted miledition, from which I quote, is not in favour of dew. The records of the Presbyterian churches, the book.
I believe, are better kept, yet most imperfectly. I wish to add to what I said of Mr. Hughes's Of the records of the Irish Roman Catholic Church careful editing, that I hold several of his opinions, | I know nothing. The records of the Prerogative expressed in his Introduction, in the utmost dis- or Probate Courts are, I admit, in a more satisbelief and aversion.
factory state, though all the original wills are not Some readers of “N. & Q." may not know that forthcoming. the late Bishop Copleston suggested to Mr. Hughes A remedy is simple. Let a competent judithat he should make the collection of Boscobel | cious individual be appointed, with a staff of assisTracts. Bishop Copleston's letter, laying down, tants, to negotiate the proper preservation of the with the finest criticism, the rules which should different records in England, Scotland, and Ireguide a persrn who investigates a history such as land, and under his direction let indices, &c. be this, is printed in Mr. Hughes's Introduction. prepared. I will return to this subject again.
CHARLES ROGERS, LL.D. Stuarts Lodge, Malvern Wells.
Snowdoun Villa, Lewisham, S.E. PARISI REGISTERS (4th S. i. 477, 582.)—I con
TOMBSTONE INSCRIPTIONS (4th S. i. 581.) – In sider that the public are deeply indebted to the corre
reply to the query of T. P. F. I beg to state that spondents of "N. & Q.” who have so emphatically stone to the surface of a tombstone will remove
the application by friction of a piece of sandreferred to the subject of preserving our parochial
every incrustation, and render any inscription perand other public registers. I am not in a condition to add to what your correspondents have fectly legible. In the course of preparing my written respecting the parish records of England, land I adopted the method now suggested on
still unfinished work on the churchyards of Scotbut I have had occasion, while prosecuting some
several hundred tombstones, and always with a important inquiries, to search many public records throughout Scotland and Ireland. The Scottish and friable. A very little rubbing is required.
satisfactory result. The sandstone should be soft Parish Registers of Births, Marriages, and Deaths The surface should then be carefully brushed. are now deposited in the General Register House, Edinburgh, where they have been well bound and
CHARLES ROGERS, LL.D.
Snowdoun Villa, Lewisham, S.E. conveniently arranged; but they exhibit numerous blanks consequent on the imperfect custodiership
CAVE OF ADULLAM (3rd S. x. 341.)—I do not of the past. The Kirk Session and Presbytery re- know whether the following use of this expression cords are still retained in the houses of the several has been before noted; but it will be seen that it clerks, and are generally kept without the least dates prior to Mr. Bright's use of it: regard to their national importance. To my “ The determined band who did this daring deed (murknowledge they are frequently offered for sale dered Cardinal Beatoun) kept possession of the castle. with the private libraries of their custodiers, when They were joined by many friends. The Castle of St.
Andrews become a Cave of Adullum, in which numbers ignorant survivors proceed to realise their effects.
who feared the tyranny of the government sought shelter. Synod records are kept as indifferently. The earlier John Knox, whose life the priests eagerly sought, took records of the General Assembly were lost; they refuge there among the rest.”—Mackenzie's History of were afterwards found and deposited in the library Scotland. Nelson, 1863. of Sion College, and being temporarily removed to
T. T. W. St. Stephens', Westminster, perished in the con- CEREMONIAL AT INDUCTION (4th S. i. 481,565.) flagration of the Houses of Parliament.
It may be interesting in connection with this These belong to the jurisdiction of the ecclesias- topic to make a note of the ceremonial observed tical courts. But there other public records in in the Episcopal Church of North America at the Scotland which are kept as badly or worse. Will "induction or institution of ministers into parishes it be credited that the Sheriff Court records, which or churches." For this a special office is procontain so many entries bearing on the rights vided in the American Prayer-book. A clergyof property, are in many counties degraded into man, standing within the altar-rails, acts as dingy and filthy cellars, where they are suffering institutor, in whose presence the senior warden, rapid and sure decay? Even where they have been or some other member of the restry, presents the arranged in presses they have been permitted to keys of the church to the new incumbent with suffer from the damp of unfired chambers. The appropriate words. After sundry prayers, the
incumbent is received within the altar-rails, and mountains, known as “the Skalp.” This singular has presented to him the Bible, Book of Common chasm is an abrupt, narrow, and precipitous rift Prayer, and Books of Canons of the General Con- in the otherwise unbroken chain of hills, and its vention. Suitable prayers and a sermon follow, local designation is probably as old as the Danish the service concluding with the administration of occupation of that part of Ireland now referable to the Lord's Supper by the new incumbent.
some of those terms of the Nors-men of which
Juxta TURRIM. MR. SKEAT has given illustrations in the Icelandic The LIVING SKELETON, CLAUDE AMBROISE skelfa and the Danish skiælve. SEURAT (41h S. i. 484.)-Your correspondent will There is a second locality in Ireland which find a short notice of Seurat in Debay's Histoire bears the name of " Scalp," between Gort and Naturelle, p. 174. This refers to an examination Loughrea, in the county of Galway; but whether of himn in France at the end of the year 1832, there is any similar geological peculiarity to idenwhen he was thirty-four years old. His weight tify the name, I am not able to say.
J. EMERSON TENNENT. is given as forty-three pounds (French), and his height five feet three inches. Hone's account of MARVELLOUS STORIES OF SHARKS (3rd S. xii. him is far more complete than Debay’s. The two 348, 470.)-See further, Keil & Delitzsh, Comauthors do not agree as to the date of his birth. mentary on the Twelve Minor Prophets, “ Jonah," Debay has it April 4, 1798. In the third series translated by Martin (Edinburgh, 1867): – of Dr. Buckland's Curiosities of Natural History
“ The great fish was not a whale, because this is ex(vol. ii. p. 91), an article from The Field news- tremely rare in the Mediterranean, and has too small a paper, signed"" H. G., Paris," is reproduced. It throat to swallow a man; but a large shark or sea-dog, contains an account of Seurat, who was then, in Canis curcharias, or Squalus carcharias, L., which is very 1833, performing at Dinan in Brittany. The
common in the Mediterranean, and bas so large a throat
that it can swallow a living man whole. Oken mentions nature of his entertainment seems to have been
that in the year 1758 a sailor fell overboard and was im. the rope trick, lately made so notorious by the mediately taken into the jaws of a sea-dog and disapDavenport Brothers: only that, in lieu of ropes, peared. The captain, however, ordered a gun, which he made use of chains. How such a lean creature was standing on deck, to be discharged at the shark, and as Seurat—who, according to Hone, was almost the ball struck it, so that it vomited up the sailor that entirely devoid of muscles-managed to perform little hurt, into the boat that had been lowered for his
it had swallowed, who was then taken up alive, and very this trick with success, will appear to those who rescue.” are acquainted with the mode of operation a
JUXTA TURRIN. puzzle. Perhaps, however, he too was in league with the spirits ! It is further mentioned that if the objects inquired for by P. are really “ mal
THE PRIOR'S PASTORAL STAFF (4th S. i. 592.)— Seurat had promised his body after death to the lets," I can offer no explanation. But I am inHôtel Dieu at Paris. He must have changed his clined to think that they are heraldic representamind, therefore, after he left England. I have tions of the statf used by the “rectores chori," or not yet been able to ascertain the date of bis directors of the choir. I have an impression of the death. Who knows whether the
seal of a cantor of the diocese of Ferns, with this may not still be going the round of the French legend—“ * S. GALFRIDI CANTORIS FERNENSIS”— fairs? GILBERT R. REDGRAVE.
on which the staff is represented like St. An“JACKDAW OF RHEIMS" (4th S. i. 577.) - From thony's cross, or a letter T, but with a bar slightly Mr. Skear's communication it would appear not projecting half way down the stem, and the lower to be generally known that the incident so humor- half terminating in a point.
F. C. H. ously narrated by Barbam has been told as a grave and striking fact. In the Sorbieriana is this 1. A. H. has apparently forgotten that Wielif
RUDEE: DEFAME: BIRRE (4th S. i. 14, 84.)— paragraph:
translated from the Vulgate. This, in St. Matt. “ Janus Nicius Crytræus relates that a certain pope had | ix. 16, has commissuram panni rudis, and rudee a tame raven, which secreted the pope's ring or annulus looks like one of Wiclif's Latinate words, unless piscatoris. The pope, thinking that some one bad committed the robbery, issued a bull of excommunication the Sussex rudy=rude (Halliw. Dict.) represent against the robber. The raven grew very thin, and lost a word older than Wiclif's age, and the first form all his plumage. On the ring being found and the ex- of our rude. In St. Mark ii. 21 (the only other communication taken off, the raven recovered his flesh place where we find rudis in the Vulgate N.T.). and his plumage.”-French Anas, i. 168.
panni rudis assumentum is translated a pacche of WILLIAM E. A. Axon.
newe clothe." But there must be a variation in Joynson Street, Strangeways.
Wiclif's versions. In that given in Bagster's SKELP (4th S. i. 485, 587.)—MR. WALTER W. Engl. Herapla the words of St. Matt. ix. 16 are SKEAT's exposition of the word skelp and its mean- "a cloute of boistous clooth," as to which word ings suggests the probable origin of the name of the Prompt. Parv. gives boystows (or clubbyd= the extraordinary cleft or ravine in the Wicklow rudis); and in a note elsewhere it is said to mean