to the Reader," as an apology, if not a ruse, for the publication of this tragedy. "This I thought good to say," he tells us, "both for the play, and also in my own behalf, to clear myself of the scandal of this poor translation, wherewith I was slandered, in spite of all that I could say in private, in spite of what the Prologue and Epilogue affirmed on the stage in publick, which I wrote in the Translator's name, that if the play met with any success, he might wholly take to himself a reputation of which I was not in the least ambitious."]

ROWING MATCH. Can you give me any information respecting the following extract from The Weekly Journal, Saturday, August 15th, 1715, in my possession ?

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Monday last, six watermen, who were scullers, rowed from London Bridge to Chelsea for a silver badge and livery, which was won by one John Hope; and this tryal of skill, which is to be performed yearly on the 1st of August, caused a great concourse of people to be then on the River of Thames."

I think it has something to do with the watermen of the Lord Mayor. BILIKE ROSaru.

[This extract has reference to the first rowing match founded by that zealous Whig and comic actor, Thomas Dogget, to commemorate annually the day (August 1st) on which George I. ascended the throne. The competitors are six young watermen,-the prize, a waterman's coat and silver badge. The distance rowed extends from the Old Swan at London Bridge, to the White Swan at Chelsea, against an adverse tide.]

WITCH TRIALS.-Where can I read anything of the Witch Trials, conducted by Matthew Hopkins in the seventeenth century, to which reference is made by T. D. P. in his paper on "Norfolk Folk Lore" (3rd S. v. 237) ? P. S. C.

[Consult the following scarce works: 1. "A True and Exact Relation of the several Informations, Examinations, and Confessions of the late Witches executed at Chelmsford, in the county of Essex, who were condemned by the Earl of Warwick. Lond. 1645, 4to." Reprinted at the private press of Charles Clarke, Esq., Great Totham, 1837, 8vo, with a portrait of Hopkins. 2. "A True Relation of the Arraignment of Eighteen Witches at St. Edmondsbury, Lond. 1645, 4to." Vide Bohn's Lowndes, p. 2960.]

the press with 250 lbs. for seven minutes, and was released upon his submission. (Penny Cyclo. xvii. 373.) From the Nottingham Mercury, quoted by MR. HAILSTONE, it seems that Thomas Spigot, alias Spigat, was "pressed" on January 18, 1721, and that Phillips did not undergo the punishment.

Perhaps the date 1720 mentioned in my quotation is a clerical error for 1721, which may have arisen in extracting the information from the Old Bailey Sessions Papers. On the other hand, the report of the Nottingham Mercury may have been erroneous as to the person who actually suffered. of "pressing" since December 1721. Mr. Barhe had been furnished with two instances in the rington says (Barr. Antient Statutes, p. 86), that reign of George II., one of which happened at the Sussex Assizes before Baron Thompson, and the other at Cambridge in 1741, when Mr. Baron Carter was the judge. In these later instances the press was not inflicted until, by direction of the judge, the experiment of a minor torture had been tried, by tying the culprit's thumbs tightly together with string, though this course was wholly unauthorised by law." (Penny Cyclo. xvii. 373.)

At all events, it seems that there were cases

As to the language of the judgment given against Spigat and Phillips, the Nottingham Mercury quotes part of the judgment thus: "And that upon your bodies shall be laid so much iron italics are my own. and stone as you can bear, and no more." The Now in all the forms of the which was established in 1406 (Year Book, 8 Hen. judgment for standing mute, beginning with that IV. 1), and which substituted the punishment of pressing to death for the old punishment of imprisonment with scarcely enough food to sustain life, the words and more, instead of and no more, invariably occur. The reason of this is evident, for the practice of laying weights on the body of the delinquent was, as Blackstone remarks (Comm. iv. 328) intended as a species of mercy to him, by delivering him the sooner from his torment.

A form of the judgment, which will be found in Hawkins' Pleas of the Crown, vol. ii. p. 466, is as follows: :

"That the prisoner shall be remanded to the place from whence he came, and put in some low dark room, and there laid on his back without any manner of covering, except for the privy parts, and that as many weights shall be laid upon him as he can bear, and more; and that he shall have no manner of sustenance, but of the worst bread and water, and that he shall not eat the same day on which he drinks, nor drink the same day on which he eats, and that he shall so continue till he die."

The following words were added by 14 Ed. IV. 8, pl. 17, and 2 Inst. 178, to the word "room":

"That he shall lie without any litter or other thing quarter of the room with a cord, and the other to another, under him, and that one arm shall be drawn to one

and that his feet shall be used in the same manner."

"That he shall only have three morsels of barley bread a day that he shall have the water next the prison, so that it be not current."

The practice of pressing to death was abolished by the statute 12 Geo. III. c. 20, which enacts that if a prisoner upon his arraignment stands wilfully mute, or does not answer directly to the offence, he shall be convicted of the offence, as if he had been convicted by verdict or by confession of the crime. But now by the statute 7 & 8 Geo. IV. c. 28, s. 2, in such a case, a plea of not guilty can be entered for the prisoner, which is to have the same effect as if he had pleaded it.

Croydon.

W. J. TILL.

PAGET AND MILTON'S WIDOW.

(3rd S. v. 193.)

Though I cannot answer the inquiry of MR. J. B. MINSHULL, I can do something towards putting him on the right track for pursuing it. There were two generations of Mynshulls, who married into families of the name of Goldsmith, as shown in the pedigree printed in "N. & Q." (1 S. ix. 39); and your correspondent, probably misled by a faulty pedigree among Barrett's MS. Genealogies in the Chetham Library, and a more than faulty one by Mr. Palmer of Manchester, has fallen into an error in stating that the mother of Thomas Mynshull, the apothecary, was Ellen Goldsmith, the daughter of Richard Goldsmith, of Nantwich. It was his grandmother who was a daughter of Goldsmith of Nantwich. Her name was Dorothy; and her father's may have been Richard, for anything I know to the contrary; but his Christian name is left blank in the Cheshire Visitation of 1663. Thomas Mynshull's mother was, according to that Visitation, Elizabeth (or, according to the Lancashire Visitation of 1664, family of Mynshull of Manchester, Ellen), the daughter of Nicholas Goldsmith, of Bosworth, in the county of Leicester. And thereby hangs a clue to your correspondent's inquiry for the Rev. Thomas Paget, minister of Blackley, and afterwards Rector of Stockport, is shown (see "N. & Q.," 1 S. v. 327) to have been the grandson of the Rev. Harold Paget, Vicar of Rothley, in the same county. On comparison of the facts stated in the last-quoted article with that which heads my present communication, and another at 1st S. viii. 452, it appears that the Rev. Thomas Paget calls Thomas Mynshull, the apothecary, his cousin; and that Thomas Paget's son, Dr. Nathan Paget, calls John Goldsmith and Elizabeth Milton his cousins; and I have shown in the pedigree first quoted above, that Thomas Myn

joined scheme of a pedigree would reconcile, and something very like it is necessary to reconcile, these several statements of relationship. The link which is wanting to complete it, is the marriage of a daughter of Nicholas Goldsmith, of Bosworth, with the father of Thomas Paget, who was shown to be connected with the same county: and if no notice of the Goldsmith family is found in Nichols's Leicestershire, a search in the Bosworth registry might furnish the required information. So might Nicholas Goldsmith's will. If your correspondent, or any reader in the neighbourhood of Bosworth, should be induced to make the search, I hope he will communicate the result. The pedigree, which to the extent above explained, is conjectural, would stand thus:

But

In referring to the troubles of Lewys Morys, in connection with irregularities in his accounts, I did not say that I did not find them mentioned by any recognised writer, as CAMBRIAN concludes: I merely said that such things were found stated in Welsh Magazines; but at the time I had not leisure to search for them, nor have I now. let me refer CAMBRIAN to the Llanrwst edition of Gwaith Goronwy Owen, p. 322, 1860, where he will find a note, appended by the editor, to a letter of Goronwy's to Rhisiath Morys (the brother of Lewys) dated May 20, 1756; this note states that Goronwy "refers to some trouble which fell on Lewys Morys on the part of his official masters; who (says a letter which I have seen) threw him into prison." This note is signed "O. W." On the preceding page it is said that it was at this time that Goronwy wrote his Cywydd i Ddiawl (Couplets to the Devil), and that the Ddiawl in question was Lewys Morys himself. Goronwy's forgiveness of Lewys Morys is shown by the Elegy on his death, written in Virginia; a note on one of the stanzas (p. 119) says of some allusions, "This, and much of what follows, points to some circumstances which happened to him a little before his death; it is not needful to specify them more particularly, further than to mention them to explain themselves." In a letter of Goronwy Owen (p. 335) CAMBRIAN may see that in writing

to William Morys, after the death of his brother Lewys (July 23, 1767), he mentions that Sion ab Hugh, a Welshman from Merioneth, had informed him that before his leaving Wales "Lewys Morys had been cast in law, turned out of his office, ruined, and thrown into prison," although this Sion ab Hugh had not heard of his death. (I translate these various statements as literally as possible.) I hope that CAMBRIAN will be satisfied that however false the charges against Lewys Morys of embezzlement were, and however unjustly he was imprisoned, these things are no inventions of mine, they are both "curious" and "true;" but that all who are familiar with Welsh literature might know something about the matter. If friendly biographers pass such things by in silence, they only do what they can to increase suspicions.

I shall be greatly surprised if any "patriotic Welshmen" are shocked at hearing that Lewys Morys obtained a situation in the Custom-house at Holyhead; for those who read the works of Goronwy Owen are familiar with the statement of Dafydd Ddu Eryri: "After a time he (Lewys Morys) was elevated (derchafwyd ef) to a situation belonging to the customs at Holyhead." I remember the remark from almost as long ago as when I could first read Welsh.

For the last thirty-three years I have been an occasional contributor to Welsh magazines, though no Welshman by birth or ancestry, yet belonging to a true Cymric branch of the Celtic stock; and I wish to assure CAMBRIAN that I have no desire to depreciate anything connected with Welsh literature or literary men; that I highly value the language (one which I learned many years ago with enthusiasm); but in my long acquaintance with Welsh literature, I am struck with the want of appreciation shown to the living, and with the manner in which praise is bestowed thickly on the dead. Some discrimination in these things might be judicious: also, it is not wise to represent men who have risen as though they had through birth that which they have obtained by abilities and exertions. A novus homo is not elevated by giving him a supposed position. LÆLIUS.

HARVEY OF WANGEY HOUSE.

(3rd S. v. 247.)

So much interest seems to be felt in the Harveys of Wangey and Aldborough Hatch, in consequence I suppose of their connexion with Dr. Donne, that I am induced to publish all the entries of the family to be found in the parish registers of Dagenham, Barking, &c.; and also the very quaint epitaph of James Harvey, at Dagenham, by way of addenda to my note on the the family in "Ñ. & Q.,” 3rd S. v. 42.

Many more Harvey entries appear in these registers, but they manifestly relate to families holding an inferior social position to the Donne Harveys.

No record of Samuel Harvey's burial, nor of the burial of his first wife Constance Donne, appears at Dagenham. He died in, or about, the year 1655, and was most likely buried in the family vault at Dagenham; but the register there was at that time badly kept. It is possible, however, that he was buried with his grandfather, Sir James Harvey at St. Dionis Backchurch.

ENTRIES AT DAGENHAM.

(Register begins 1598.)

1598-9. Issabell, ye daughter of James Harvie, gentleman, was bapt. ye daie of Feb.

[Of Wangey House, second son of Sir James Harvey.] 1600. John, the sonne of James Harvie, gentleman, was bapt. the 23 Sept.

Thomas, the sonne of James Harvye, gent., bapt.

the 21 Julie.

1602. 1604. Mary, the daughter of Mr. James Harvie, bapt. 20 Nov.

1605. Sarah filia Jacobi Haruye Armiger, bapt. 13 Dec. 1607. Samuel, sonne Jacobi Harui Armiger bapt. 6 April.

[Married at Camberwell, June 24, 1630, to Constance, daughter of Dr. Donne, and widow of Edward Alleyn.]

1609. Martha, daughter of James Haruye, Esq., bapt. 29 of Sept.

1612. Rebecca, ye daughter of James Harvye, Esq., bapt. 25 of Oct.

1614. Thomas, sonne of Mr. James Harvye, bapt. 17 Oct. 1616. Edward, sonne of James Harvye, Esq., bapt. y 30 June.

1659. Thomas, sonne of James Harvey, Esq., bapt. Dec. 24, 1659.

[Second son of Samuel and Constance Harvey.] 1661. Anne, daughter of Mr. James Harvey, bapt. May 30. 1663. James, the sonne of Mr. James Harvey, bapt. Aug. 8.

1664. Winnifrith, the daughter of Mr. Thomas Harvey, bapt. May 30.

1665.

Elizabeth, ye daughter of James Harvy, Esq., bapt. Dec. 15.

Katherine, daughter of James Harvey, Esq., bapt.

Dec. 11.

1626. Martha, daughter of James Harvye, Esq., buryed ye 14 of March.

1627. Mar Jeames Haruey, Esq., buryed ye 3 of Aprill. His Monument in the Corner of ye Vestry. Rebecca, daughter of Mrs. Harvy, wid., buryed yo 4 of June.

1638. Frances Harvey, buryed Jan. 23. 1644. Susanna, the wyffe of Mr. Samuell Haruey, buryed April 9.

1656. John Harvey, Esq., buryed Sept. 20.

[I am not sure if this gentleman was elder brother or eldest son of Samuel Harvey.]

1668. John, son of James Harvey, Esq., buried Oct. 21. 1670. Ann, daughter of Mr. Harvey, Esq., buried Nov. 8. 1672. A Major Ďeringham, from Mr. Harvies, Jan. 21.

Ann, wife of James Harvey, Esq., buried June the 12. [I believe that she was daughter of Thomas Bonham, Esq., of Valence: a curious old moated house, still standing, near Wangey House.]

1677-8. James Harvey, Gent., buryed Jan. 21.

[Seconds on, and eventual heir, of Samuel Harvey. He sold the Wangey estate shortly before his death.]

BARKING REGISTER.

1632. Thomas, the sonne of Mr. Samuel Harvy, bapt. at Aubrey Hatch, Sept. 13.

1631. ffrancis, daughter of James Harvie, bapt. Jan. 23. 1624. Captaine Harvye, buried Sept. 16. 1630. John Haruie, buried Sept. 27.

1685. Elizabeth Harvey, widdowe, Jan. 18. Frances Harvey, widdowe, March 3.

ROMFORD REGISTER.

1634. James Harvey, son of Samuel, at Havering, bapt. July 7.

1648. Agnes Harvie, daughter of Samuel Harvie, gent., bapt. Nov. 17.

[Samuel Harvey inherited Pondmans, and other estates, in Romford parish.]

HORNCHURCH REGISTER.

1598. Mr. Nicholas Cowtrond and Mrs. Elizabeth Harvye, married Aug. 31.

1599. Sebastian Harvy, gent., and Mary Tryon, of the parish of St. Christfer's, in London, married Apr. 23.

[Eldest son of Sir James Harvey: died 21 Feb. 1620.]

STRATFORD-LE-BOW REGISTER.

1622. Sr Thomas Hynton, of Chilton Foliot, Knt., and the Lady Mary Harvie, late wife of Sir Sebastian Harvie, Knt., married Oct. 1.

[Quoted by Lysons.]

On east wall of the rector's chancel (used as a vestry room), Dagenham church :-Arms. Or, a chevron between three leopards' faces, gules, for Harvey. Argent, two bends engrailed sable, a label of three points (query gules ?), for Radcliffe. Same, impaled, at bottom.

Inscription.

"Were here no Epitaph, nor Monvment,
Nor line, nor marble to declare the intent,
Yet goodnes hath a lastinge memory,
The just are like to Kings that never dye.
Their death a passage, or translation is,
An end of woes, an orient to Bliss.
Thrice happy covple that doe now posses
The frvits of theire good workes and holyness.

Now God rewards theire allmes and Charitye, Their strict observinge Saboath's pyetie. Here were they wont to spend their Seaventh day, Heere was theire loue, their life, theire Heaven's way. Heere did they pray, bvt now they praises singe, And God accepts their Sovles sweete Offeringe. Onleye theire bodyes heere remaine in grovnd, Waitinge the svrge of the last Trumpet's sovnd. "Heere lyeth JAMES HARVY, Esq., second Sonne of Sr James Harvy, Knt., some tyme Lord Mayor of London. He tooke to wife Elizabeth, second davghter of Anthony Radcliffe, some tyme Alderman of London; and lived with her in holy wedlocke above six-and-thirty yeares, and had issve by her eight Sonnes and nine davghters; he departed this life the second of April, Ano Dni. 1627, ætatis svæ 67: and the said Elizabeth svrvived him one yeare and odd dayes, and departed this life the eight of Ivne, Ano Dni. 1628, ætatis svæ 55.* whose bodyes are both heere interred, wayting for the gloriovs Cominge of ovr Blessed Saviovr."

Stoke Newington.

EDWARD J. Sage.

A GENTLEMAN'S SIGNET (3rd S. v. 281)-I know not to whom the signet may belong; but as to the crest, it belongs to the family of Horsbrugh, of Horsbrugh, in Peebleshire, sometimes called Horsbrugh of Pirn, from another estate which they possess in the county. A branch of the same family has been long settled in Fife, and they also use the crest. The legend about the crest, how it was obtained, and the meaning of the name, may be found in an old book, entitled The Beauties of Scotland, in the account of Peebleshire. I have not a copy of the book; but so far as I remember, it contains a sketch of Horsbrugh Castle, now a J. H.

ruin.

EDWARD HAMPDEN ROSE (3rd S. v. 259.) — I well remember that poor Rose was an ordinary seaman on board "L'Impetueux," of eighty guns; and that while belonging to that ship, he published various small poems in newspapers, and in the old Naval Chronicle, under the signature of "A Foremast Man."

The Sea Devil, to which R. I. alludes, was not published at the time I speak of; but it is said to have evinced much knowledge of human nature, though with a tendency to satire.

With a view of bettering his condition, Rose was sent from "L'Impetueux" into the "Semiramis" frigate as purser's steward! He died in the Naval Hospital at Plymouth, in 1810, of a consumption; alleged to be a consequence of his having served on shore in the pestilent marshes of Walcheren. Some elegiac verses to his memory, signed "N. T. C.," are to be seen in the twenty-fourth volume of the Naval Chronicle, pp. 325, 326.

Σ.

*Her burial is not entered in the register. I have noticed many such omissions at Dagenham.

GOVERNORS OF GUERNSEY (3rd S. iv. 456.) The following names are given in Warburton's Treatise on the History, Laws, and Customs of the Island of Guernsey (1822):

"1554. Leonard Chamberlaine, and Francis Chamberlaine. The words of the patent are:- Ipsosq. Léon. et Franc. Chamberlaine, Capitaneos, Custodes, Gubernatores, et eorum utrumq. Capt. Cust. et Gubern. Insularum et Castrorum, &c. Pat. 1 and 2 Mariæ, p. 13. (July 25, 1554-24 July, 1555.) “1570. Sir Thomas Leighton. 12 Eliz. (Nov. 17, 1569 -Nov. 16, 1570.) The Lord Zouche was his Deputy Governor, and is, in an order of Council, called his substitute.

"The Bailiffs of Guernsey, during the reign of Eliza

beth were

"1549-1562. Hellier Gosselin.

1563-1571. Thomas Compton. 1571-1581. Guillaume De Beauvoir.

1581-1587. Thomas Wigmore; who was deprived of his post Sept. 16, 1587, by order of of the Queen.

1588-1600. Louis Devyck; who resigned, because

of sickness.

GREEK EPIGRAM (3rd S. v. 195, 269.) —
Νήπιον ἀρτιθαλὴ γυμνόν τ' ἐπὶ γούνασι μητρός,

ἀμφί σε μειδῆσαν δακρυόεντα φίλοι ·

“Ως ζάδι', ὡς ὕπατόν ποι' ἀτέρμονα γ ̓ ὕπνον ἐφέρπων, δακρυόεντας ὁρῶν μειδιάοις συ φίλους.

Can any of your readers point out where the Arabic text can be found ?* The English version attributed to Carlyle by the Anthologia Oxoniensis is in my private MS. copy ascribed to the late Rev. C. Colton, the author of Lacon, in which instead of "So live that in thy latest hour," is read "at thy dying hour;" and for "we" and "floods" of the following line, "they" and "flood." Some trifling variants also occur in the other English form given in 3rd S. v. 195. WITTALP. Conservative Club.

SACK (2nd S. xii. 287, 452, 468.)-By a singular coincidence I called upon a wine-merchant and was invited to taste "a cup of sack" with him on the same day that I chanced to light upon certain notes in your Second Series in reference to this word. The wine given me as a great honour by my friend, who is of the old school, had been imported by him many years ago from the Canaries, and I was assured that the only real thing of the kind was, and is, a Canary wine. He added that sherris sack, beloved of Falstaff, was either a made wine or else a negus, maintaining that sack pure was

[* The Arabic text is given by Mr. Carlyle in his Specimens of Arabian Poetry, p. 25.-ED.]

only to be had from the Canaries. It obtained its name, he said, no doubt, from the source indicated by QUEEN'S GARDENS, viz., from saccus, the goatskin sack in which the wine was originally brought down from the mountain-side vineyard. Some one present contended for sec or siccus, but the wine was anything but dry. It agreed with M. F.'s description (2nd S. xii. 452), pale amber in colour, slightly sweet, just a wee bit earthy, and as pleasant and seductive, I fear, to myself, a poor curate, and therefore, per force, a temperate man, as to the bon vivant Falstaff. The sum of "10s. a pinte of sack and a role," was, according to frequent entries in the churchwardens' accounts of the parish in which I reside, the usual vestry allowance for lecturers and preachers in the seventeenth century. Sometimes it is "a pinte of Canarie." From the wealth and importance of Canarie merchants, this must have been a popular drink in Shakspeare's time, and during the Stuart dynasty. See The Life of Marmaduke Rawdon, Camden Society, 1863. JUXTA TURRIM.

Charles-Forbes Comte de Montalembert, was born COUNT DE MONTALEMBERT (3rd S. iv. 453.) — March 10, 1810, in London, where his father, Marc-Réné, descended from an ancient family in Poitou, was then residing as an emigré; his mother was Eliza, only daughter of Mr. James Forbes, F.G.S., F.R.S., F.A.S., &c., author of Oriental Memoirs (1813), and of several other works. Mr. Forbes was born in 1749, in London, in the civil service of the East India Company at of a Scottish family, and died Aug. 1, 1819; he was Bombay from 1765 to 1783; and being in France in 1803, he was among the numerous détenus confined at Verdun, but was released with his family in 1804, as a man of science, by the mediation of the French Institute, a fact highly honourable to that learned body, and creditable to Napoleon. Though I am unable to affiliate Mr. Forbes with the Aberdeenshire family of the same name, either at Donside or Corsindae, the fact is very probable; and it reflects honour on Scotland, or any country, to be connected with such a philosopher and Christian as Montalembert. Local inquiries could surely elucidate the descent, and Scorus must have opportunities of doing so, which I cannot possess in India.

A. S. A.

MORGANATIC (3rd S. v. 235.) In attributing to morganatic marriages any connection with the Fata Morgana, I take it for granted that DR. BELL is merely indulging in a play of fancy. But as the word is, as he observes, one of considerable importance at the present day, it may not be amiss to look into what its etymology really is. A lefthanded or morganatic marriage is one contracted

* Who is styled "a Scotch lady of strong character, and remarkable ability" (characteristics inherited by her distinguished son).