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General Hickenlooper:- I will state that the monument to General Grant is now being cast by a Cincinnati artist for $30,000. That is what we expect to pay for the equestrian statue of General Grant; for the statue alone.

General Alger:-How much additional?

General Hickenlooper—I can't advise you as to the cost of the entire statue; it was a very much less sum than that, however. $25,000 would be a very fair estimate for an equestrian statue. General Alger:-That is simply for the statue alone?

General Hickenlooper:-That is for the statue, the figure and frieze work.

General Stockton:-I will state that the monument of Lincoln, cost fully $75,000; that is, with the frieze work, base, foundation. and all.

General Alger:-Our idea has been, that as far as possible, these statues should be practically alike, so that it cannot be said that one statue cost more, or is any better than another, except perhaps as they may be in point of art; and what we wish to get at is the expense of one of these statues that have already been built, and that is why I wanted to inquire here. I understand that the Thomas statue had an appropriation, upon which a very sharp bargain was driven on the Government, and a very much larger sum realized than was expended; isn't that so, General Hickenlooper?

General Hickenlooper:-I believe that was the approved way of doing at that time. [Laughter.]

General Alger:-Perhaps I had better not allude to that any

more.

General Hickenlooper:-It has been suggested that perhaps you know how much New York had appropriated for the Grant monument. [Laughter.]

General Alger:-The gentleman is bound to draw me away from this subject. We have now $52,000, and I hope that we shall be able to collect enough for the purpose, with the contribution that is taken up here by the Army of the Tennessee. General Sherman, is there any fund of the Army of the Tennessee towards that statue?

General Sherman:-Yes, there is a committee of which General

Raum is chairman. We have no report from them, as I understand; none has been received by the Corresponding Secretary. Certain little sums, floating about, contributed to this monument, have passed through the Corresponding Secretary's hands, and he has reported them and sent them to the main committee, of which General Raum is the chairman and active member.

General Alger:-I want to say, in passing, that a few of us have been down to the meeting of the Army of the Cumberland, at Chattanooga; and they have standing around Chattanooga a great many trees filled with shot and shell, and we were inquiring about it, and we asked if we could not procure one, and they said the only difficulty was that the trees were all taken by the Army of the Tennessee. [Laughter.]

The President:-We shot them away.

General Alger:-The Army of the Tennessee wasn't there to defend itself, and I didn't know about it, and I thought it would be proper to ask about it. [Laughter.]

General Stockton:-I will state that the State of Illinois appropriated $50,000 for a monument to General Grant. The site selected has been Jackson Park or South Park, Chicago. The trustees have engaged * the gentleman who made the statue of Lincoln, and I think the equestrian statue will cost about $40,000, without the pedestal and without the site.

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General Sherman:-Gentleman, my attention has been called to the fact that last year, under our rules, Dr. Plummer offered a resolution for an amendment to our By-Laws, which required a year's notice. The year has expired, and we can take action upon it to-day. And in order that we may understand the nature of that motion, I will go back to the first article of our By-Laws; and he suggests an amendment or an entirely new by-law, and by reading the two, side by side, you will understand the question. Dr. Plummer's resolution, page 116 of our last report, is as follows:

Resolved, That a part of Article I of the By-Laws, which reads as follows, to-wit: "All persons applying previous to, on or after the annual meeting in eighteen hundred and seventy, for enrollment, shall pay a membership fee of ten dollars; that the annual dues shall continue to be one dollar, and persons applying for membership shall pay back dues," shall be amended to read as follows, to-wit: "All persons applying previous to, on or after the annual meeting of 1889, for enrollment, shall pay a membership fee of ten dollars; that the annual dues shall continue to be one dollar, and that persons apply

ing for membership shall not be required to pay back dues, nor shall they be entitled to receive reports of meetings held previous to 1889, without paying cost of same."

The adoption of that resolution amends our fundamental law or By-Laws; and it is now open for debate.

Dr. Plummer:-Mr. President and Comrades: We have been in existence for a good many years; we paid our original benefit fee; we have paid our dues from year to year, and we have enjoyed a great deal of pleasure in our meetings. I don't think there is a single member of the Society of the Army of the Tennessee that begrudges the money he has expended to this time, in the enjoyment of our meetings; but we have a large number of very honorable members of the Army of the Tennessee who would be glad to-day to become members of this Association, if it were within their means. I don't think it is right to ask these members to pay back dues; but that it ought to be sufficient for them to pay the regular membership fee of ten dollars and pay their dues. from this time on; and that is the object of this amendment. We can get a great many men that would be willing to come in if we would forego their back fees, on payment of membership fee and their dues from this time on. That is my reason for offering this

amendment.

General Noyes:-I only rise to say that I sincerely hope this amendment will be adopted. There are many hundreds of old soldiers, just as brave and patriotic as anybody here to-day, who, in their old age, and in the depleted condition of their purses, are not able to pay twenty-eight or twenty-nine dollars back fees. As remarked by the gentleman who has just taken his seat, we have had our fun, in all these past years, in meeting together. These men have been absent from all these meetings; have not been permitted to participate in the enjoyment of them, and they come in, if at all, for the future. It is well known that the old soldiers are not among the rich people of the country, as a rule; they are poor; and in their old age they need the money they have more than they did twenty-five or thirty years ago. They were brave and patriotic, and earnest and self-sacrificing in time of war; they are entitled, before they go down to the grave, to have the honor for themselves and to leave that honor to their children, of being members of the Society of the Army of the

Tennessee, at a cost which they can afford. I hope the amendment will be adopted.

The President:-We will be pleased to hear from all sides and on every branch of this question; for it is an amendment of our By-Laws, which are a part of our Constitution. Are you ready for the question?

Calls for "question?"

The President:-Gentlemen, you have heard the amendment to our Constitution read, and you have heard the remarks of Dr. Plummer and General Noyes. Those favoring the adoption of this substitute, will say "aye." Contrary "no." The "ayes certainly have it and by a very large majority. The resolution will be adopted.

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The effect of that is simply that a person coming in now pays his $1.00 dues and the $10.00 which we all paid in the beginning, and then goes right along with us. It is now a part of our Constitution; and it is our duty, all of us, to give it hearty and cheerful support, and spread the news to the old soldiers of whom General Noyes has spoken so feelingly.

General Heath:-Mr. President, if it be in order, I move that this Society return a vote of thanks to Colonel Loudon for the very interesting and valuable paper he has just read, and that it be. placed in the archives of the Society.

The motion was carried.

General Dodge:-Will all the members of the committee on nomination of officers meet in Room 18, at the Burnet House, tomorrow morning at 9 o'clock.

The President:-Yes, we want your report here by ten o'clock to-morrow morning. There are five members of the committee; you will take notice that you will meet at the Burnet House at Room 18, at 9 o'clock, if you please.

General Hickenlooper:-The members of the Local Committee have requested me to read the following programme of exercises for the day.

If you will permit me, I will describe this in detail. The escort of the Army of the Tennessee consists first of a company of police, First Regiment, the Grand Army of the Republic, Battery B, the Sons of Veterans, and one or two other organizations of similar character, forming on Third street below the Burnet

House, at 7:15. They will move from their position up Vine street north towards Fourth. In the mean time the Society of the Army of the Tennessee will have formed in the Burnet House, with the members of the Loyal Legion, and when the end of the escort column moving up, passes the main entrance of the Burnet House, the Army of the Tennessee, headed by its own band, will form in the rear; the extreme rear being brought up by the mounted police. They will move north to Fourth street and west to Race, which is an asphalted street, and on Race street north to Music Hall. The exercises at Music Hall will be opened promptly at 8 o'clock. It is a large hall, as you are probably aware; and the audience will probably consist of between seven and eight thousand persons. The space reserved for the Society of the Army of the Tennessee, the Loyal Legion and the Grand Army is in front, reserved from the other seats.

At the same time that the members of the Society are urged to join with the Society in its march, their ladies, the visiting ladies, will be taken charge of by the entertainment committee, placed in carriages, and taken to Music Hall, and assigned to their reservation, which is immediately adjoining the Society of the Army of the Tennessee; so that when the meeting is over, there will not be the slightest difficulty in the ladies being joined by their escorts right in the hall on either side.

At the banquet Thursday night, I understand gentlemen, of course with their accompanying ladies, the members of the Society and members of the Loyal Legion, will be present; but there are no citizens under any circumstances to be present at that banquet. There will be no one present who has not seen service in the army.

[General Hickenlooper here read further from the programme, and explained the objects of interest of the city.]

Now it is understood, gentlemen, I had better say, as to the arrangements at Music Hall; the two center aisles down to the stage have been reserved for the Army of the Tennessee and their escorts; eight hundred seats. The balance of the house has been opened to the public, on reserved seats. The committee found. themselves so pressed for admission, that under the circumstances they were compelled, in addition to the entire seat capacity, to issue one thousand standing tickets. So that there will be no lack of enthusiasm there, because the majority of the people there are

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