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cle, in the city of Washington, District of Columbia, and that the sum of ten thousand dollars, or so much thereof as may be necessary, is hereby appropri ated out of any money in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, to be expended under the direction of the Secretary of War in the erection of the pedestal for said statue upon plans to be furnished by said

committees.

Colonel Dawes moved the adoption of the report.

The President:-Will the motion carry with it that thousand dollars?

Colonel Dawes:- I think it would. Probably a separate resolution should be proposed, because the bonds are registered.

General Hickenlooper:- Will a confirmation vote on this report endorse the proposition to contribute a thousand dollars by this Society?

Colonel Dawes :-Yes.

General Hickenlooper:-This is a serious question, and I think it is worth your serious consideration before passing upon it. I would, therefore, ask for a division of that question. The endorsement of the report includes the appropriation. I ask this, so they may be considered by the Society separately. I make a motion to that effect. I move that we strike from the report the reference to an appropriation of one thousand dollars by this Society.

The President:-You want to move a separate question. Ought it not to be the preceding question?

General Hickenlooper: -I would move that the report be separated, and with the exception of the part referring to the sale of bonds now held by this Society, that it be adopted.

General Dodge:-I would suggest to General Raum that he divide the report himself, and we adopt the report, and then afterwards the resolution.

The President:-The adoption of the report carries the resolution.

General Hickenlooper:-Not if he accepts it.

General Raum:-Your committee are perfectly willing to have the question divided, because we want the deliberate action of the Society. A motion would apply, and it is subject to division.

Lieutenant-Colonel Dresser:-To bring this matter before the Society, I move to strike out that part of the report of the committee which refers to the appropriation of $1,000, and we will have the question which should first come before the Society. I, therefore, move to strike out that part of the report.

General Raum:-We will withdraw that from the report, and introduce a resolution.

Lieutenant-Colonel Dresser:-With the understanding that that part is stricken out from the report of the committee, I move the adoption of the report.

The report as thus amended, by withdrawing a part of it, was unanimously adopted.

General Raum then offered the following resolution from the committee:

Resolved, That one United States bond of $1,000, held by this Society, be sold, and the proceeds thereof appropriated to aid in the erection of an equestrian statue to Major-General John A. Logan, in the city of Washington, D. C., and the proceeds of said bond paid over to the committee.

General Leggett:-Mr. President, I supposed that probably there would perhaps be some difference of opinion in reference to this matter. We have a considerable fund, as has already been shown. It is true we are approximating the time when, perhaps, the interest on that would not pay our annual expenses-I mean when our annual receipts from the Society will not alone pay our annual expenses. And we had not expected to fall back upon the interest of that fund for that purpose. But that time has not come yet. It is true last year it did not quite meet the expense. This year I understand that the receipts will overrun the expenses. I think for several years yet it will overrun the expenses. There are a great many officers of the Army of the Tennessee yet living, and there are a great many yet becoming members, and there are more and more becoming members every year. I would be glad as one to see this Society as a society do something. General Logan occupied a position in the army that was different from that occupied by any of the rest of us. As the report says, he was admitted to be the foremost volunteer soldier of our army. He has been a member of this Society from its first organization, usually in the habit of attending it, was always with us, and as a member

of the House of Representatives and the Senate of the United States, has done for the old soldiers of this country what no other one has done. He had the position to do it, and he had the ability to do it. I a am exceedingly desirous that our comrades of this Society should feel somewhat as I feel in the matter; that it is due to the Society itself to do it-not merely ourselves, and not merely as individuals, but as a Society; and if it is necessary to place that back, I am willing to be one to place my hand in my pocket to do it again.

Colonel Dayton:-I will give $100.

General Leggett:-So would I.

General Hickenlooper:-What is the object of making the transfer? Why not place our hands in our pockets now?

General Leggett:-For the reason I want the Society to do it. General Hickenlooper:-I stand second to no member of the Society in my love for General Logan-in my love of him as a man. But when you take this action, I fear you establish a precedent. I regret to say General Leggett is not correct in his understanding as to the expenses of the Society. We are running behind constantly. We are not deriving a benefit from our entertainment, on the part of citizens, where we may go. They find it year by year a harder and more disagreeable task to ask that assistance, because the increasing years since the war have brought with them a consequent decrease in the old soldiers. The only hope of perpetuity of this Society is that it may eventually secure a local habitation and name, and have the necessary fund to defray the expenses incident to holding these reunions. That time is now upon us—it is here to-day. And there are gentlemen here who have already considered the propriety of a permanent location for the Society at Chicago. This permanent fund has, as you heard by the report of the Treasurer yesterday, been encroached upon, notwithstanding the originally expressed idea that it should be preserved for this express purpose. This fund so far has been zealously guarded with that object in view. While General Logan is endeared to the memory and hearts of us all, he was not more so than General McPherson. A monument has been erected to the memory of General McPherson by this Society, and not one dollar was contributed by this Society as a Society. I feel as does General

Leggett, that the members of the Society should assist in building that monument, but I believe that it should be done solely and entirely by voluntary contributions. I will most heartily join with him and Colonel Dayton in putting my hand in my pocket to assist in that. The President once said there is no limit to it, or line of demarkcation, between the love and affection of the old members of the Society and the reputation that they won in the Army of the Tennessee; and it is so slight, that no one here can draw that line. General Leggett himself is one of the representative volunteers in the army, and a man whom we hold in as much affection as any volunteer It may be our duty next year to make an appropriation for a monument to him. While I would regret that the opportunity were offered, yet I would not vote to take the funds of this Society for even that purpose.

Colonel Barnum:-As the resolution now stands, it is for the sale of a $1,000 bond; that makes $1,200. I wish the members to remember, it is not $1,000, but $1,280, and it looks to me that is establishing a bad precedent. I would much rather put my hand in my pocket, and pay my proportion, than to have the permanent funds of this Society used for any other purpose than what they were intended for.

Colonel Jacobson:-I want to say that some years ago the same question came up in regard to a monument to General Frank P. Blair. All that his warmest friends feel for General Logan they felt for General Frank P. Blair, whom, you all know, was the most glorious man in our army-the very prince. In the meeting in which this question came up, I voted against the Society giving one thousand dollars for the purpose of erecting a monument to him. I may say that the members of the Society contributed perhaps five thousand dollars towards the erection of a monument to General Frank P. Blair, without the subscriptions suffering by reason of the failure of the Society to subscribe. Every man felt it incumbent upon himself to give and to solicit subscriptions from as many of his friends as possible. I am sure that with the warm blood that courses in the veins of all volunteer soldiers towards General Logan, and the fact of this Society not contributing, or the withdrawing of this resolution, will not have the effect of hindering the erection of a monument, and of a first-class monument. On the contrary, it will have the effect of all the sooner having the monument erected. I wish to say this, not that I am opposed to

the erection of a monument to General Logan; I am heartily in favor of it. I feel as kindly towards his memory as a soldier as any man can feel. But I think that this Society should not establish a precedent which I think would be ruinous.

Captain Andreas:- As General Leggett will give one hundred. dollars, and Colonel Dayton, why not raise the one thousand dollars right here? We can do it in ten minutes. That is the shortest way out of it.

General Raum:-I desire to say that we have no special choice as to the manner in which the funds shall be raised for the erection of this statue. At the Detroit meeting, the President will recollect, and General Dodge will also recall, that quite a number of officers met in your room by accident merely, and this subject was discussed; that in the course of the discussion of it you stated that you saw no impropriety, and that you would favor an appropriation of one thousand dollars to this fund. I beg to say to you, sir, and to the members of this Society, that this committee has acted substantially upon that suggestion. Of course, we do not wish either to impair the fund or to establish a bad precedent. But I do think, sir, that there would be no impropriety in appropriating from time to time from this fund to erect statues which will be authorized by Congress to those great men who have commanded the Army of the Tennessee. We can't erect statues to all of us. Congress will not authorize the erection of statues and contribute to the erection of statues to all of us, however well we may have done our duty in the Army of the Tennessee. But where Congress comes forward and readily appropriates money and designates a spot, and donates cannon for the erection of a statue to some great man who has led this Army of the Tennessee as its commander, I think that we can well afford to appropriate the small sum from the funds of this Society. But I beg to say that we don't want this resolution defeated, because whether we should at once raise a sum much larger here than this amount that is proposed to be appropriated, it will go out that the Society had refused to appropriate money for the erection of a statue to General Logan. But if it seems to be the pleasure of the Society that we shall withdraw this resolution-[Voices: "No! no!"] we shall withdraw this resolution, and depend upon calling upon the membership, as seems to be the wishes of the majority of the Society here present

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