'WASH' ('WASSH '), BLACKSMITH'S TOOL. -Dr. Bradley has been supplied with a reference to a membrane of the King's Remembrancer's Memoranda Roll of 1363, for this word. Careful examination of that membrane does not show the word. It may be that the reference was miscopied. I shall be glad if one of your correspondents can supply any early reference to the word-with a quotation. There are, no doubt, several printed inventories that record the tools of a smith's forge; but I do not know where to find these. ROBT. J. WHITWELL. CRIPPLEGATE: DRAWINGS WANTED. In connexion with a history of the ward of Cripplegate in the City of London, which I am about completing, I should be glad to hear of any original unpublished drawings of buildings, &c., of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. I have all those contained in the British Museum and the Guildhall Library. JOHN J. BADDELEY. 32 Woodbury Down, N. CHARLES HOLLINGBERY was admitted to Westminster School in September 1826, aged 13. I should be glad to obtain any information about him. G. F. R. B. LAMB IN RUSSELL STREET.-Charles Lamb and his sister for a time occupied lodgings in Russell Street, Covent Garden, where Will's Coffee-house formerly had stood. This street is by no means the same as Great Russell Street, Bloomsbury. Was Russell Street, Covent Garden ever correctly known as Great Russell Street? The 'D.N.B.' and Ainger's Charles Lamb in the English Men of Letters' series both call the street Great Russell Street, Covent Garden, while the latter book uses both and magazine and newspaper writers frequently repeat the error. names; It seems desirable that an important book of reference like the 'D.N.B.' should be correct on such a simple point. [We reproduce a query which appeared in 1 S. ix. 449: "OWEN ROWE THE REGICIDE. "Mark Noble, in his Lives of the Regicides, says that Owen Rowe was descended from Sir Thomas Rowe, Lord Mayor of London in 1568. In the Additional Manuscripts (British Museum), 6337, p. 52, is a coat in trick: Argent, on a chevron azure, three bezants between three trefoils per pale gules and vert, a martlet sable for difference; crest, a roe's head couped gules, attired or, rising from a wreath; and beneath is written, "Coll. Row, Coll. of hors and futt." These arms I imagine to have been the regicide's. If so, he was a fourth son." Query, whose ? The Hackney Parish Register records, that on Nov. 6, 1655, Captain Henry Rowe was buried from Mr. Simon Corbet's, of Mare Street, Hackney. How was he related to Colonel Owen Rowe ? I should feel particularly obliged to any correspondent_who could furnish me with his descent from Sir Thos. Rowe. 66 vol. iv. p. 640) the daughter of Mr. Rowland According to Mr. Lysons (Environs of London, Wilson, and widow of Dr. Crisp, married Colonel Rowe; adding in a note, that he supposes this Colonel Rowe to have been Colonel Owen Rowe, the regicide. The same statement is found in Hasted's History of Kent (edit. 1778), vol. 1., p. 181. I should be glad of some more certain information on this point; also, what issue Owen marriages are recorded in the Hackney Register. Rowe left, if any, besides two daughters, whose "I am likewise anxious to learn whether there exist any lineal descendants of this family of "The indictment, arraignment, tryal, and MAJOR-GENERAL THE HON. WILLIAM HERBERT, son of Thomas, 8th Earl of Pembroke, and father of Henry, 1st Earl of Carnarvon is stated by G. E. C.' to have married Catherine Elizabeth Tewes, of Aixla-Chapelle. Is it possible to trace the parentage of COWPER: PRONUNCIATION OF NAME.I have been told that the poet Cowper said somewhere or other that he pronounced his name so that the first syllable rhymed with "loop." Could any of your readers give me a reference or supply me with any evidence that may serve to determine the question? T. NICKLIS. [This subject has been discussed in N. & Q.' See, for example, 10 S. xii. 265, 335, 372, 432, 516. At the first reference MR. THOMAS BAYNE gives the solution of Cowper's riddle on the Kiss (Gent. Mag., vol. lxxvi.), which, not itself by Cowper, was taken to be his and to decide the pronunciation. It runs : THE HONOURABLE MR.-In accordance with a suggestion made in the MontaguChelmsford Joint Report on Indian reforms, the use of the courtesy designation "The Honourable Mr." has been curtailed. Members of the Provincial Councils will no longer enjoy that distinction, for an official announcement states that "The Governor-General is pleased to permit the title Honourable' to be borne during their term of office by the following officers in India: (1) Members of the Governor-General's Executive Council, (2) President of the Council of State, (3) President of the Legislative Assembly, (4) Chief Justice and Puisne Judges of the High Courts, (5) Members of Executive Councils and Ministers in Governors' Provinces, (6) Residents of the 1st Class, (7) Presidents of Legislative Councils in Governors' Provinces, (8) the Chief Judge and Judges of the Chief Court of Lower Burma and (9) Members of the Council of State." Hence arises my query. When did the "Mr." append itself to the title? I think I am correct in saying that when the title was first used in India there was no question of "Mr." When he arrived at the requisite attitude John Jones became The Hon. John Jones: nowadays he would be called The Hon. Mr. Jones. Why? The official regulation quoted above says the title is "Honourable," and omits both "the" and "Mr. Ought we to speak of "Honourable Jones or Honourable John Jones ? 66 May I also be permitted to inquire when Provincial Governors in India first acquired the title "His Excellency ? There is an odd sequel, for the wife of a Governor is designated-by usage if not by official sanction from the Government of India"Her Excellency." Yet I never heard of the wife of a Lieutenant-Governor, who is by right His Honour," being called "Her Honour." ! S. T. S. 66 LIBRARIES, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE. (12 S. viii. 8, 34, 54, 76.) THE average Public Library and Public Librarian are not at all equipped to answer genealogical problems. May I make a few suggestions as to what a library should acquire before beginning to qualify to fulfil such a function? It might then be found that to invest a locality with direct personal interests, via the study of genealogy, is the surest road to the attainment of whatever aims Public Libraries are generally supposed to possess. 1. Of course, copies of all the histories of the county in which the library is situate, of the County Visitation Pedigrees and of all local histories. 4. Complete copies of all the local Directories, and before then, of the local Subsidy Rolls, Land Tax Assessments, Hearth Tax Assessments, Muster Rolls, Recusant Rolls of 1841 and 1851. and complete copies of the Census Returns 5. Then abstracts of all the wills of people connected with the place, of the pleadings and depositions in lawsuits, and of every loose deed or document which exists amongst the millions in the Public Record Office, the Probate and Diocesan Registries and in private hands. These to be arranged simply in order of date and type-written. hand for ready reference, PUBLIC LIBRARIAN I think that, this working material at might begin to be in a position to answer genealogical enquiries. It might cost a few thousand pounds for any single parish to acquire such a collection, and take a few years to get together, and he himself would be all the better equipped with some years' experience of record searching outside his own library; but until both possess these qualifications he cannot expect inquirers to contribute for special searches much towards the library funds, for they will assuredly be disappointed at the result. County of Suffolk. The Ipswich Public Library contains a large collection of local books relating to Ipswich and the county generally. I believe the Suffolk Institute of Archæology at Bury St. Edmunds possesses a collection of books and MSS. The Public Library at Lowestoft also owns a gcod collection of local bocks, while as to those in private hands, Mr. Milner-Gibson-Cullum, D.L., Hardwick House, Bury St. Edmunds has a fine collection, and the library of Mr. F. A. Crisp at the Grove Park Press is a considerable one and rich in MSS., but now 3. Every original document, parchment, being dispersed. The collection of Mr. deed, &c., upon which it can lay hands, H. B. W. Wayman at Bloomsbury is rich properly calendared and indexed, so that in rare broadsides, Commonwealth quartos 2. Copies of the Parish Registers from beginning to end, of all the Manorial Ccurt Rolls and of all the Monumental Inscriptions in all the churhes, churchyards and cemeteries in the parish or town that the library represents. I have been told that the poet Cowper said somewhere or other that he pronounced his name so that the first syllable rhymed with "loop." Could any of your readers give me a reference or supply me with any evidence that may serve to determine the question? T. NICKLIS. [This subject has been discussed in N. & Q.' See, for example, 10 S. xii. 265, 335, 372, 432, 516. At the first reference MR. THOMAS BAYNE gives the solution of Cowper's riddle on the Kiss (Gent. Mag., vol. lxxvi.), which, not itself by Cowper, was taken to be his and to decide the pronunciation. It runs : A riddle by Cowper Made me swear like a trooper; But my anger, alas! was in vain ; For, remembering the bliss Of beauty's soft kiss, I now long for such riddles again. In 5 S. i. a similar correspondence will be found, and at p. 274 occurs the following: COWPER: TROOPER (5 S. i. 68, 135). My wife saw some years ago a letter from the poet Cowper to the late Mrs. Charlotte Smith, the poetess, in which he stated the pronunciation of his name was Cooper." That letter was in the possession of a lady in Leamington, who was niece to Mrs. Smith. JOSEPH FISHER. Waterford.] 66 ST. ANDREW's, SCOTLAND: PRE-REFORMATION SEAL.-I shall feel obliged if any reader can tell me (1) whether the Seal of the Bishop of St. Andrew's for the Archdiocese of St. Andrews, Scotland, was lost at the Reformation; or (2) whether it is still in existence; or (3) whether it was used during the early years of the Reformation, and when? HISTORICAL STUDENT. "THE ASHES."-May I appeal to the omniscience of N. & Q.' to tell me the exact derivation of the expression "The Ashes," used to mean the supremacy of Australia (comes first this time) or England in the Test International Cricket Matches. I have asked several people who are all greed that it means the championship but why "The Ashes "? ANXIOUS ENQUIRER. [The Intelligence Department of The Times informs us that the origin of the catch-phrase obout "bringing back the ashes is to be found in The Sporting Life of 1882. In this year England was defeated at Kennington Oval by the Australians land the paper referred to published an In Memoriam,' the exact wording of which cannot be remembered, to "English cricket, which died at the Oval on Aug. 29, 1882. The body will be cremated, and the ashes taken to Australia."] THE HONOURABLE MR.-In accordance with a suggestion made in_the_Montagu Chelmsford Joint Report on Indian reforms, the use of the courtesy designation "The Honourable Mr. has been curtailed. Members of the Provincial Councils will no longer enjoy that distinction, for an official announcement states that "The Governor-General is pleased to permit the title Honourable' to be borne during their term of office by the following officers in India : (1) Members of the Governor-General's Executive Council, (2) President of the Council of State, (3) President of the Legislative Assembly, (4) Chief Justice and Puisne Judges of the High Courts, (5) Members of Executive Councils and Ministers in Governors' Provinces, (6) Residents of the 1st Class, (7) Presidents of Legislative Councils in Governors' Provinces, (8) the Chief Judge and Judges of the Chief Court of Lower Burma and (9) Members of the Council of State." Hence arises my query. When did the "Mr." append itself to the title? I think I am correct in saying that when the title was first used in India there was no question of "Mr." When he arrived at the requisite attitude John Jones became The Hon. John Jones: nowadays he would be called The Hon. Mr. Jones. Why? The official regulation quoted above says the title is 'Honourable," and omits both the "and "Mr." Ought we to speak of "Honourable Jones or "Honourable John Jones ? Provincial Governors in India first acquired May I also be permitted to inquire when the title "His Excellency "? There is an odd sequel, for the wife of a Governor is sanction from the Government of India designated-by usage if not by official LIBRARIES, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE. (12 S. viii. 8, 34, 54, 76.) THE average Public Library and Public Librarian are not at all equipped to answer genealogical problems. May I make a few suggestions as to what a library should acquire before beginning to qualify to fulfil such a function? It might then be found that to invest a locality with direct personal interests, via the study of genealogy, is the surest road to the attainment of whatever aims Public Libraries are generally supposed to possess. 1. Of course, copies of all the histories of the county in which the library is situate, of the County Visitation Pedigrees and of all local histories. 4. Complete copies of all the local Directories, and before then, of the local Subsidy Rolls, Land Tax Assessments, Hearth Tax Assessments, Muster Rolls, Recusant Rolls and complete copies of the Census Returns of 1841 and 1851. 5. Then abstracts of all the wills of people connected with the place, of the pleadings and depositions in lawsuits, and of every loose deed or document which exists amongst the millions in the Public Record Office, the Probate and Diocesan Registries and in private hands. These to be arranged simply in order of date and type-written. hand for ready reference, PUBLIC LIBRARIAN I think that, this working material at might begin to be in a position to answer genealogical enquiries. It might cost a few thousand pounds for any single parish to acquire such a collection, and take a few years to get together, and he himself would be all the better equipped with some years' experience of record searching outside his own library; but until both possess these qualifications he cannot expect inquirers to contribute fcr special searches much towards the library funds, for they will assuredly be disappointed at the result. 210 Strand, W.C.2. GEORGE SHERWOOD. County of Suffolk. The Ipswich Public Library contains a large collection of local books relating to Ipswich and the county generally. I believe the Suffolk Institute of Archæology at Bury St. Edmunds possesses a collection of books and MSS. The Public Library at Lowestoft also owns a good collection of local books, while as to those in private hands, Mr. Milner-Gibson-Cullum, D.L., Hardwick House, Bury St. Edmunds has a fine collection, and the library of Mr. F. A. Crisp at the Grove Park Press is a considerable one and rich in MSS., but now 3. Every original document, parchment, being dispersed. The collection of Mr. deed, &c., upon which it can lay hands, H. B. W. Wayman at Bloomsbury is rich properly calendared and indexed, so that in rare broadsides, Commonwealth quartos 2. Copies of the Parish Registers from beginning to end, of all the Manorial Ccurt Rolls and of all the Monumental Inscriptions in all the churhes, churchyards and cemeteries in the parish or town that the library represents. |