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DR. WELLS: PAPER ON THE DEW AND coat quite undecipherable. I cannot idenSINGLE VISION.'-In an Italian trans-tify these arms as having belonged to the lation of a treatise published in English families who formerly owned the house, early in the last century about the origin which dates from 1460. of Darwinism, there is mentioned a paper CHARLES S. TOMES. by a Dr. Wells entitled 'On the Dew and Mannington Hall, Aylsham Norfolk. Single Vision.'

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SAN SEVERINO. Can any one give me the parentage of Gianetta di San Severino, the wife of Louis d'Enghien, Count of Brienne and Conversana (d. post 1383), whose grandson, Peter de Luxemburg,

Count of St. Pol Brienne and Conversana (d. Aug. 31, 1433) was one of the original knights of the Order of the Golden Fleece (Jan. 10, 1429/30), and grandfather, through Jacquetta, Duchess of Bedford and Countess of Rivers, of Elizabeth Wydville, Queen of Edward IV. ? MEDINEWS.

Have there been any instances of recipients CONSECRATED ROSES IN COATS OF ARMS.of roses consecrated by the Pope emblazoning these roses in their coats of arms? If

so, does the consecrated rose assume a form different from that of the ordinary heraldic rose ? NOLA.

CHRISTMAS PUDDING AND MINCE-PIES.When did plum pudding become the recognised Christmas pudding and since when has the idea been in vogue that every mincepie eaten before Twelfth Night brings luck? Fifty years ago I was taught that the first 66 on mince-pies should be eaten Stirup Sunday and every one eaten between then and Twelfth Night, in a different house, meant one month of happiness in the New Year. All the mince-meat had to be finished by Shrove Tuesday. RAVEN.

SCOLES AND DUKE FAMILIES.-In St. Mary's Church, Marlborough, Wilts, is a monument with the following inscription :

"Near this Place Lyeth ye Body of Jane, The wife of Robert Scoles of Wroughton, gent., eldest daughter of Andrew Duke of Bulford, Esq. She died November 16th, 1733. Anno Aetat. 41."

Heraldry (in colours): arms of Scoles impaling Duke, namely, Gules, on a chevron between three escallops argent as many mullets of the fields for Scoles. Per fesse argent and azure three chaplets two and one counterchanged for Duke. Who were the parents of Robert Scoles? Any information respecting him and his family would be gratefully received.

Essex Lodge, Ewell.

LEONARD C. PRICE.

MAYNE AND KNIGHT.-Wanted date and I seek the name of Andrew Forrester's place of marriage of Robert Mayne, M.P. wife, also the names of his children. A Nell for Gatton, Surrey, with Anne, daughter of Forrester, of Corstorphine, married James John Knight, Esq., I believe of Gloucester-Simpson (born 1746/49, d. Apr. 27, 1819) shire. I shall also be glad to know the date of her death.

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Aurelius Ambrosius

buried at Stonehenge anno 500

This ancient monument was erected by Aurelius surnamed Ambrosius of the Brittaines whose nobility in the reign of Vortiger his country's scourge about ye yere of Christ 475 by treachery of ye Saxons on a day of parley were there slaughtered and their bodies there interred in memory of which the King Aurel caused this trophy to be set up admirable to posterity both in form and quality.

at Cramond about 1774. Was she a des-
cendant of Alexander ? Were these For-
resters related to Sir George Forrester who
was created a baronet Mar. 17, 1625 and a
peer, as Lord Forrester of Corstorphine,
July 22, 1633 ?
JAMES SETON-ANDERSON.
39 Carlisle Road, Hove, Sussex.

STAPLETON: O'SULLIVAN.-Can some one inform me if there exist (and where), any portraits of Prince Charles Edward's two generals Brigadier Walter Stapleton supposed to have died after the battle of Culloden, 1746, and Coi. John O'Sullivan, knighted by the Pretender, 1748, who escaped to France after Culloden-date of death unknown. (Mrs.) C. STEPHEN. Wootton Cottage, Lincoln.

T. JONES, AUTHOR OF THE HEART ITS RIGHT SOVEREIGN,' &C.-Can any particulars be furnished about the author of this book -birth, personalia and year of demise ? He also wrote 'Rome no Mother Church,' 1678. ANEURIN WILLIAMS.

Menai View, North Road, Carnarvon.

Was this the popular belief in James I.'s reign with regard to the origin of Stonehenge? There are of course barrows in the [The authorities for his life given in the vicinity, but probably of an earlier date thanD.N.B.' are Wood's Athena Oxon.'; Wood's the sixth century. Or, is "John Speed 'Fasti Oxon.'; Burrows's Registers of Visitors hastily settling to his own satisfaction, the of the University of Oxford'; Bye-Gones relating very abstruse problem concerning the origin and Jan. 20, 1875, and Thomas's History of the to Wales and the Border Counties,' Mar. 4, 1874, of Stonehenge ? F. BRADBURY. House of St. Asaph.']

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"WYTYNG."-In the Glossary to vol. ii. The Stornor Letters and Papers' (Camden Third Series, xxx., 1919) I read :

"Wytyng, wyte, to depart, a sone wytyng a quick going, i. 97."

Dr. Bradley's edition of Stratmann gives no instance of wyten later than 1300; so a fifteenth-century survival would be valuable, and I looked up the original ('Auc. Corr.,' xlvi. 243) only to find that Thomas Stonor wrote a sone departyng." Is it possible that the reference is wrong, and that the

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Q. V.

ANDREW FORRESTER.-Son of Alexander Forrester, minister of Tranent, was minister of Glencross, and apparently also of Penicuik, in 1588. Two years later, he was translated to Costorphine, and in 1598 was removed

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What was meant in the days of the Merry Monarch " by "Rigges," and Gran

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I should be much obliged if any reader can give authors' names and exact reference for the following quotations. I am quoting only from memory:

1. Did not the learned Sergeant Maynard

To prove all traitors guilty strain hard? 2. 'Tis rare the father in the son to trace He sometimes rises in the third degree, Now on the crest of the wave

And now in the trough of the sea.

3. Oft have I seen a game of chess,
The king and bishops in distress,
Queen, knights and castles all forlorn,
And now and then a pawn.

8 East Farade, Leeds.

4.

W. H. GINGELL.

endlessly pexplexed

With impulse, motive, right and wrong, the ground

Of obligation, what the rule and whence
The sanction.

[Wordsworth, 'Prelude,' bk. xi. 298.]

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The use of incense for ceremonial purposes in the English Church practically ceased in the reign of Edward VI.; it seems, however, that no Act was passed or order promulgated for its abolition. At Aldeburgh and many other towns the Church was used for elections and other secular purposes (the sale of ships took place in the church at Aldeburgh) and in this particular case I think the entries refer to fumigation only -and extracts from the later Chamberlains' Account books (which I am now preparing for N. & Q.') confirm this impression :1625. Item to Mr. Oldringe for pfume oyle and Franckensence for the Churche.. 00 01 06 1625 Item to Mr. Oldringe for pfume Candle April 18.. 00 01 06 1626 To Mr. Owldrine for perfumes at Christide and Easter 00 03 00 I have read somewhere that the "perand bearer bore their part at the coronation of George III.

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ARTHUR T. WINN.

MR. CHAMBERS's query should probably be answered in the affirmative. The following, which was written to some Anglican paper in the late nineties, may interest him :INCENSE, &c.

Sir, In an interesting book in my possession published in 1820, I find the following record of the ceremonial use of incense in the procession at the Coronation of King George III., in 1761 :

THE ORDER OF THE PROCESS ON.
Children of the Chapel Royal

in surplices with scarlet mantles over them.
Choir of Westminster
in surplices.

The King's Organ Blower
(John Ray),

in a scarlet coat, with a silver-gilt badge on his left breast.

The King's Groom of the
Vestry

(William Smith).

in a scarlet dress, holding a perfuming pan, burning perfumers.

The book also contains a picture of the procession, with William Smith and his cloud of incense and perfuming pan very much in evidence.

The same book also contains the following reference to the ceremonial use of lighted candles at the funeral of the previous monarch, King George II. :

At the entrance within the church, the Dean and Prebent daries in their copes, attended by the choir, all having wox tapers in their hands, are to receive the Royal body, and are to fall into the procession just before Clarenceux, King of Arms. and are so to proceed singing, etc.

January 16.

S. ROYLE SHORE.

It is unfortunate that Mr. Shore omitted to give the title and other particulars of the "interesting book." The use of incense in the consecration of chancels and altars W&S a matter of complaint among the Puritans in 1641 (see 'Hierurgia Anglicana,' p. 367).

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In the Form of Dedication and Consecration of a Church or Chapel drawn up in 1685 by Archbishop Sancroft, and first. printed for John Harley in Holborn in 1703, there is a form for the dedication of a censer, and of candlesticks, though the form does not contemplate that a censer and candlesticks will always be presented for dedica

tion.

In the well-known case of Martin ". Mackonochie (L. R., 2 A. and E. 116) Sir Robert Phillimore remarked (p. 213), that incense "for the purposes of ornament or fumigation of the Church appears to have been used in the Anglican Church at various times since the Reformation, "and especially

by the saintly Herbert," and at p. 215 he said :

"Bishop Andrewes, a very high authority, appears to have used it, though in what way is not clear, in his own private chapel," and that it

"certainly was in use in the time of King Edward the Sixth's first prayer book. The visitation article of Cranmer as to forbidding the censing to certain images, &c., supplies one of the proofs of

the fact."

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Still, though he regarded the ceremonial use of incense as an ancient, innocent, and pleasing custom,' he decided that to bring in incense at the beginning or during the celebration and remove it at the close of to be the celebration of the Eucharist,' "a distinct ceremony, additional and not even directly incident to the ceremonies ordered by the Book of Common Prayer," and to be therefore illegal.

In the later case of Sumner v. Wix (L. R., 3 A. and E. 58) the same judge held that the use of incense immediately before the celebration of the Holy Communion in such & way as to be preparatory or subsidiary to the celebration was also illegal.

These legal decisions have, however, as is well known done very little to impede the ceremonial use of incense in Anglican churches. JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.

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or to put them into the form of a biography
by writing a brief connecting narrative.
I chose the latter method because, while it
would enable me to retain the ipsissima
verba of all the most important documents,
the story might still interest some members
of the general public. I was aware that
I should be producing in either case what
Charles Lamb would have called
a book
which is no book"; but I thought that the
historical value of the material justified me
in braving the distaste which the form of my
book was bound to excite-in the mind of
I am still not
any good judge of literature.
sure, however, whether there is any better
way of doing what had to be done unless,
of course, one were to double the size of the
volume by relegating all the MS. quotations
to an appendix and writing a literary bio-
graphy with something of a mise-en-scène
and an atmosphere.' But then who would
N. L. HALLWARD.
publish it?

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PRISONERS WHO HAVE SURVIVED HANGING (12 S. vii. 68, 94, 114, 134, 173, 216, 438).-Abraham Chovet was liveryman and demonstrator of anatomy in the (London) Company of Barber-Surgeons, in 1734, and for several years thereafter.

father:

S. Weir Mit

THE HANDLING OF SOURCES (12 S. vii. 499). From the literary point of view I agree with almost everything that your reviewer has said in his kindly criticism of my book 'William Bolts.' But he raises an interest-chell mentions that Dr. Physick told his ing question. Given a mass of MS. records of historical interest concerning a man once famous, records hitherto unpublished and difficult of access, what is the best method of making them available for the historical student ?

He offers two alternative methods, either complete digestion of the material and the composition of a literary biography, or the orderly printing of the records with full annotation.

The former method I deliberately rejected, because it would not have made the records available for the student. For the same reason I rejected, except to a limited extent, the substitution of a paraphrase for an exact quotation. It seemed to me that the only way of fulfilling my design was either to print and annotate the records, in which

"While living in London, Chovet tried to save a too adventurous gentleman about to be hanged for highway robbery, by opening the trachea before the hangman operated. The patient was rapidly removed after the execution, and is said to have spoken. A queer tale, and doubtful, but worth the telling. The Government is said to have lacked due appreciation of this valuable experiment, and Chovet brought his Voltarian visage to America."

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Quotation is from p. 219 of 'American Medical Biographies," which Drs. H. A. Kelly and W. L. Burrage have recently edited. This has many notices of those who (like Mitchell) have ridden two horses, medicine and literature, and can doubtless be found already in the larger libraries. In any case, it is well worth calling the attention of the readers of 'N. & Q.' to it. ROCKINGHA

tickets and the numbers are also written in. These particular vouchers were issued at special rates for an excursion on the occasion of a Wesleyan Conference held at Birmingham during the week beginning Aug. 5, 1844. The local paper states that over a thousand persons travelled by the trains.

VOUCHER RAILWAY TICKET (12 S. vii. 510; viii. 36).-Two unused first and second class "vouchers " with their counterfoils intact are in my possession. They measure 8 in. by 3g in., the first class ticket being on a poor quality yellow paper and the second class on green paper. Each bears the initials of the official issuing the The tickets bear the following particulars :—

:39

FIRST CLASS.

BRISTOL TO GLOUCESTER.

August 5, 1844.

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FIRST CLASS.

BRISTOL TO GLOUCESTER. Monday, August 5, 1844.

The Bearer must return by the Special Train from Gloucester, at nine o'clock on Tuesday Evening, Aug. 6, or exchange this Ticket and pay 18. at Mr. B. Wellings, Northgate-Street, Gloucester, and return by any of the regular Trains, on Wednesday, August 7.

Paid 6s. 6d.

A. T. M. This Ticket must be carefully preserved and produced when required.

SECOND CLASS.

GLOUCESTER, CHELTENHAM, OR TEWKESBURY, TO BIRMINGHAM.
Monday, August 5, 1844.

562

The Bearer may return by either of the Trains which leave the Camp-Hill Station, Birmingham, Monday Evening, at Eight o'clock, or Tuesday Afternoon, at Six o'Clock.

Paid 58. 6d.

A. T. M.

This Ticket must be carefully preserved and produced when required.

WILLIAM AND RALPH SHELDON (12 S. vii. 466, 516).—While information has been given in regard to the tapestry industry founded at Barcheston by William Sheldon of Beoley, and his identity has been established, his relationship to the Catherine Sheldon who married Edmund Plowden is still unanswered. In the hope that more information may be forthcoming, let me state the difficulty. The question is whether Catherine was the daughter of this William (Sheldon pedigree) or his cousin (Plowden pedigree according to Archdeacon Cameron in the extract quoted by MR. WAINEWRIGHT). The Sheldon pedigree will be found in full detail in Nash's Worcestershire, 1781-99,' having been contributed to that work by J. C. Brooke, Somerset Herald, as an act of gratitude to the memory of the "great Ralph Sheldon (1623-84) who gave over 300 MSS. and numerous pedigrees to the College of Arms. Some useful additions are contained in Glazebrook's 'The Heraldry of Worcestershire,' 1873, and in the Sheldon pedigree in vol. v., p. 849, of Foley's Records of the English Province of

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ROLAND AUSTIN.

Of

the Society of Jesus.' According to these authorities, Ralph Sheldon who married the heiress of the Rudings and acquired with her land in Beoley, Feckenham, Hanbury and Martin Hussingtree, had six sons. these William, the eldest, of Barford Hall, purchased the Manor of Beoley from Richard Neville, Lord Latimer, in the reign of Edward IV. He was an ardent supporter of the House of York, followed Richard III. to Bosworth and had his estates confiscated by the victorious Henry VII. He died without issue September, 1517, the estates having been restored to him in that year [This is the William that the Plowden pedigree makes father of Catherine.] William's younger brother Ralph eventually succeeded to the Beoley property. He married Philippa, daughter and co-heiress of Baldwin Heath and died September, 1546. Of their issue William the eldest son is the one who established the tapestry works at Barcheston having married as his first wife Mary, daughter and co-heiress of William Willington of Barcheston. He purchased the Manor of Weston uxta Chiriton, co

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