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ROBERT CROKE, fl. 1270.- ·In Some Feudal Coats of Arms and Pedigrees' there occurs a Robert Croke who took up the cross in the last Crusade 1270. Can any of your readers say from what part of the country this Robert Croke came, or, better still, inform me to what family he belonged? I have no evidence, but it is just possible

that he may have belonged to the Lancashire Crooks, the senior branch of which held the manor of Crook in the township of Whittle-le-Woods from the twelfth to the sixteenth century. In the short skeleton pedigree given below there is a Robert who would be contemporary with the named in the above-mentioned work :Gilbert de Whittle, living circa 1150...... (See 'Lancashire Pipe Rolls,' &c. (Farrer)

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I should be grateful for any information sent direct to me at the address below. Eccleston Park, Prescot, Lancashire.

JOHN BEAUMONT.-The following query appeared at 8 S. viii. 187 :—

"I have an oval miniature on vellum, about three and a half inches by three inches, enclosed within a silver-gilt case with glass; a loop, formed in the shape of a true lover's knot, for suspension. The miniature is probably by Richardson, a portrait painter of some repute early in the eighteenth century, and the portrait is dressed in a grey open coat, coloured waistcoat and frill or lace neckcloth. Who was the John Beaumont above referred to? J. HENRY."

Can any one inform me if the writer of this query is still alive, or who has possession of the eighteenth century miniature of John Beaumont to which he refers?

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GOUGER.-Information required name of Gouger-believed now extinct. (Mrs.) C. STEPHEN.

STAPLETON, TUTOR TO O'CONNELL.-Can any one give any record of a Brian Stapleton Bryan Stapylton, tutor to Daniel O'Connell ? (Mrs.) C. STEPHEN.

or

F. CROOKS.

EDWARD BOOTY.—Information is sough? concerning the life and remains of Edward Booty of Brighton, landscape painter, who exhibited in London between 1846 and 1848. Was he a connexion of Henry R. Booty who exhibited in 1882-3 ?

F. GORDON ROE.

Arts Club, 40 Dover Street, W.1.

KINEMA OR CINEMA ?-I do not know whether the spelling and pronunciation of this word has been discused in N. & Q.' There is, I believe, a Cinematograph Act of Parliament; and if so spelt in the Statute Book, it may be regarded as an authoritative ruling. G. B. M.

THE MAYFLOWER: PETER BROWN.-One

of the passengers was a Peter Brown, carpenter, an ancestor of the renowned John Brown of Harper's Ferry. Could any one state birthplace or county of origin of Peter ? F. BROWN.

1 and 2 Whitfield Street, E.C.2.

MAUNDRELL'S JOURNEY FROM ALEPPO TO JERUSALEM,' EASTER, 1697.-This passed through many editions not only alone, and combined with the same author's 'Journey from Aleppo to Beer on the Euphrates, and to Mesopotamia; but bound up under one title-page with Dr. Clayton's translation of the Journal which the Prefetto of Egypt kept of the journey he took in 1722 from Cairo to Mount Sinai and back, and, in at least one instance, along with Jos. Pitts's

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C THOMAS DANN AND ALICE LUCAS.'

I have an etching by W. J. White, 1818, named as above. Can any reader inform me as to its origin ? A. E. BowDEN.

8 Bloom Grove, West Norwood, S.E.

"A MISS IS AS GOOD AS A MAN." In a lecture delivered at Toulouse on July 10, 1918, by M. Emile Boutroux of the Académie Française, the eminent Academician said:— "Les féministes......n'oublièrent pas, toutefois, que leur ambition essentielle était de faire admettre que, dans une foule de professions, là où l'on croit que l'homme seul peut réussir, la femme, en réalité, peut rendre les mêmes services, a miss is as good as a man.'

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Did M. Boutroux invent this perversion of the old proverb, or did he take it from some comic paper?

JOHN B. WAINE WRIGHT. THE TURBULINES.-Any source of information regarding this sect would oblige. Schaff-Herzog in A Religious Encyclopædia,' vol. iii. p. 1994, 3rd edition, 1894, compares them to the " Ranters, An Antinomian sect of the Commonwealth Period," whom Fuller in his 'Church History' associates with the Familists.

"They are described as believing themselves incapable of sinning, and fancying themselves in Adam's state as he was in Paradise before the fall, as stripping themselves naked (like the Turbulines, &c.) at their public meetings.'

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and has a varied career, landing at last in Newgate. Thence he escapes with a pal to sea, acting as supercargo in trips to France, and eventually goes to the South Seas, a description of which covers more than half the story. Date, say, eighteenth or early nineteenth century. E. H. C.

STANIER.-Wanted particulars of the marriage of John Stanier and Bridget, 1716-1727; probably in Shropshire (not in printed registers) or Oxfordshire, or Northamptonshire. H. ST. JOHN DAWSON.

TAVERN SIGN: "NONE THE WISER.”The other day I noticed an inn in Edmonton bearing the above sign.

Can any reader inform me what is the

origin of it? It is not mentioned in Larwood.

WALTER B. PATON.

10 Stanhope Gardens, Queen's Gate, S.W.7. WILLIAM HOLDER was admitted to WestWas

minster School in April 1733, aged 11. he one of the Holders of Gloucester (See 12 S. vii. 510)? Any information about his parentage and career would be useful. G. F. R. B.

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CHIPPENDALE.—Is anything known of the parentage of Thomas Chippendale, the cabinet maker? The 'D.N.B.' simply says that he was "a native of Worcestershire who came to London in the reign of George I." Mr. J. P. Blake, in his little book Chippendale and his School,' says :There were three Thomas Chippendales, all of whom were carvers or craftsmen, or both. The second of the three was the great Thomas Chippendale. The first Chippendale is said to have been a beginning of the eighteenth century. It is believed that father and son came to London about 1727 and started business together."

well-known cabinet maker at Worcester at the

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Married-11 Nov. 1707 Thos. Chippendale and Martha Hudson of Hallam."

Can this be the father of the great Thomas? Did he come to Sheffield for his wife? I have not met with any other instance of the name in the Register.

CHARLES DRURY. 12 Ranmoor Cliffe Road, Sheffield. [Our correspondent might consult 11 S. vi. 407; vii. 10, 54, 94, 153, 216.]

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LEIGH HUNT.-In Chambers's Cyclopædia of English Literature' (editions from 18441892) there is included among the representative selections from Leigh Hunt a "Dirge ("Blessed is the turf, serenely blest"). I have not found this elsewhere attributed to or acknowledged by Leigh Hunt. Can any reader trace it for me? F. PAGE.

MORGAN PHILLIPS.-This Roman Catholic worthy, one of the founders of Douay College, where he died 1570, was also known and referred to as Phillip Morgan. Where was he a native of originally?

ANEURIN WILLIAMS.

Replies.

TERCENTENARY HANDLIST OF

NEWSPAPERS.

is

(12 S. viii. 38. See vii, 480.) EVERYONE interested in the history of newspapers and periodicals must be grateful to Mr. J. G. Muddiman and to The Times for the compilation and publication of the 'Handlist '-to the former for undertaking such laborious work, and to the latter for enabling it to be printed for the use of students. The more the 'Handlist' used the more its value will be appreciated and if, with the co-operation of readers of N. & Q.', the earlier history of the press can be brought to completion a very necessary piece of research will be available for posterity. Mr. Muddiman will be the AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED.first to acknowledge that such a work as The following must belong to some work between his must be incomplete, more especially, 1700-1770. Are they from Pitt's speeches? perhaps, in the provincial section, and here 1. "My hold of the colonies is in the close affec-I think he might well have asked publicly tion which grows from common names, from kindred blood, from similar privileges and equal protection. "These are ties which, though light as air, are as strong as links of iron."

SPENCER TURNER.-Information is desired about this man. He had a nursery at Holloway Down, Essex, in 1787 (?) Had he any connexion with Turner's oak? J. ARDAGH.

for assistance in compiling lists and so have made his 'Handlist of even more value. The fugitive nature of provincial papers is 2. "To hinder insurrection by driving away the well known and records of many can only people, and to govern peaceably by having no sub-be obtained by using local knowledge. jects, is an expedient that argues no great profundity of politics. It affords a legislator little self-applause to consider that, where there was formerly an insurrection, is now a wilderness." L. H. P.

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5. Sir William Watson: Ode on the Day of the

Two other suggestions are offered. Having put the index to a fairly close test the need for more direct reference to the titles is felt. The chronological arrangement having been adhered to throughout makes searching for titles more difficult than would have been the case had the group of papers under each year been numbered. For example, under 1888 in section II. there are 126 titles and had these been numbered from 1 onwards and referred to in the index as 1888 (1), 1888 (2), &c., instant reference could have been made. The initial labour would have been greater and the cost of printing added to, but the ultimate saving in time to users of the list would have been immense.

Secondly, the index would have been more complete had it included the titles of papers which were the successors, under different names, of earlier ones. As examples I give (1) the (second) Gloucester Mercury (1856), which was a continuation of The Gloucester Free Press (see p. 240, col. 2), and (2) The South Midland Free Press, the continuation of The Northamptonshire Free

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1831. A Political Register (Wm. Carpenter's). 1801. The Glocester Herald. No. 1, Oct. 3, Jan. 28.

1833. The Wag. No. 3, Nov. 24.

1834. The Official Gazette of the Trades Unions.

1801. Continued as The Gloucester and Cheltenham Herald, Jan. 7, 1826. Last number seen June 2, 1828.

Conducted by the Executive of the 1815. The Gleaner, or Cirencester Weekly Maga-
Consolidated Union. Nos. 1-2, June
7, 14.

The People's Police Gazette.

No. 29,

Mar. 1. The Pioneer and Weekly Chronicle. Nos. 2-8, New Series, July 19 to Aug. 30; No. 9 [Entitled] Pioneer and Official Gazette with which is Incorporated the Weekly Chronicle, Crisis, and The New Moral World, Sept. 6; No. 10 [Entitled] The Pioneer and Official Gazette of the Associated Trades Union, Sept. 13. Twopenny Dispatch. No. 21, Nov. 1. Weekly Police Gazette. No. 2, Jan. 11; Vol. ii., No. 27, July 4, 1835. 1835. The Axe and Working Man's Advocate. No. 1, Sept. 5.

The New Political Register. No. 1, Oct. 17. People's Weekly Dispatch. No. 1, Oct. 4. 1836. Carpenter's London Journal. No. 1,

Feb. 13.

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zine. Nos. 1-52, Dec. 28, 1815 to Dec. 23, 1816.

1830. The Tewkesbury Yearly Register and Magazine. 1830-1849. Issued annually. 1832. The Gloucester and Cheltenham Standard. Nos. 1-8, Sept. 1 to Oct. 20. 1838. The New Moral World and Manual of Science. No. 203, Sept. 15 (Birmingham).

Victoria Journal or Moral Folitical and Social Reformer. No. 1, July 21 (Manchester).

1839. The Gloucestershire Paul Pry. No. 7, Aug. 17 (Gloucester).

1841. The Gloucestershire Beacon. Nos. 1-2, Feb. to Mar. 1841 (Gloucester).

No. 1, June 3, 1843. No. 5, Oct 7, 1843 (Gloucester). Tewkesbury Magazine and Literary Journal.. Nos. 1-3 (All), May to July.

1843. The Mirror of Schism.

1846. Tunbridge Wells Looker On. No. 8, Aug. 14.

1861.

The Triad (Cheltenham). Nos. 1-2 (All).

Nov. to Dec.

1866. The Cheltonian. No. 1, March 1866 to Oct. 1869. Continued as The Cheltenham College Magazine, Nov. 1869 to Continued as The ChelAug. 1874.

No. 1, Nov. 10. 1868.

The London Universal Advertiser. Vol. i.,

No. 2, May 19.

tonian, Oct. 1874. In progress.

Harmer's

Monthly Illustrated Journal No. 1, May 1868 to April 1869 (Cirencester).

The Museum. A Journal of Literature, 1874. The Glocestrian. No. 1, 1874. Continued

Science and Art. No. 1, Mar. 24;
Nos. 7-8, May, 5, 12.

1838? Entertaining Knowledge Gazette. No. 2. 1845. London Journal and Weekly Record of Literature, Science and Art. No. 1, Mar. 1.

The Voice of the Poor. No. 1, Oct. 11. 1845? Lloyd's Companion to the Penny Sunday Times and People's Folice Gazette. No. 197, June 15.

as The London Amateur and The Glocestrian, March 1879 to March 1880. Continued as The Glocestrian, May to July 1880.

1875. The Gloucester Independent. No. 3, Oct. 23.

1876. The Gloucester Herald. No. 1, May 6. 1877. Cheltenham: a fortnightly serial. No. 1, Nov. 15; No. 8, St. Patrick's Day, 1878.

1878. The Bee (Cheltenham). No. 2, June. Gloucester Guardian. No. 2, June 27.

Page of Handlist.

NOTES.

Gloucestershire Templar Record and 120 (2) Gloucestershire Notes and Queries. No. I
Quarterly Guide. Nos. 2-5, May 1878 to
Feb. 1879 (Stroud).

1879. Gloucester Observer. Nos. 1-3, June 14

April 1879. Published first in Stroud. Last number Vol. x., No. 90, January 1914.

28. Fire occurred July 8 and issue 218 (2) Gloucester Journal. First published Apr.

ceased.

1880. The Cheltenham Ladies' College Magazine.

No. 1, February. In progress.

9, 1722. A complete file to beyond 1885 is in private hands.

1881. The Evening Mercury. No. 6, Mar. 21 222 (2) The Gloucestershire Repository. Read (Gloucester).

Gloucestershire Wasp. Nos. 1-7, Oct. 29 to Dec. 10 (Gloucester).

1882. The Gloucestershire and Herefordshire Congregational Magazine. No. (Bristol).

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Glocestershire. Continued to Vol ii.,
No. 10, Apr. 19, 1822.

227 (2) The Looker On. This is also given under 1836 (229, col. 1) the later date being a new series. Publication discontinued:

1, Jan.

289 (1)

300 (1)

323 (2)

1885. The Philistine. No. 1, Oct., 1885. Continuation of Cheltenham Working Men's College Magazine (276, col. 2) (Cheltenham). 1888. The Gloucester and Cheltenham Congregational Magazine. No. 1, Jan. 1888; Vol. 2, No. 9, Sept. 1889. 1889. Glo'strian. No. 1, Jan. 1889; Vol. 3, No. 3, 1891 (Gloucester). 1893. The Cheltenham Mirror. No. 15, Feb. 28. 1897. The Independent. A monthly review. No. 1, May 1897 to No. 3, July 1897 (Gloucester).

1-13,

1901. The Protestant Chronicle. Nos. Oct. 15, 1901 to Oct. 22, 1902. 1907. The Cryptian. No. 1, Dec. 1907. In progress (Gloucester).

The Gloucestershire Scholastic Magazine. No. 1, Jan. 1907 to Vol. 4, No. 23, July 14, 1914 (Cheltenham).

1909. The Plutonian Magazine. No. 1, July

1909 (Gloucester).

1910. The Gloucester Free Press. No. 1, Dec. 2 to No. 13, Feb. 24, 1911. Incorporated with Gloucester Household News (319,

col. 1).

1911. The Calton Magazine for boys and girls. April 1911 to Spring 1913 (Goucester). The Gloucester Conservative and Unionist monthly. No. 1, October 1909 to No. 25, December 1911.

The National School Magazine. No. 1,
December, 1911. In progress.
No issue
between Easter 1915 and Midsummer

1920 (Gloucester).

1912 Gloucester Technical Schools Magazine. Nos. 1-2, December to March 1912–13.

More Hall Magazine. Nos. 1-19, May 1912 to October 1916 (Stroud).

1913. Bristol and Gloucestershire Automobile Club Monthly Journal. No. 1, Jan. 31, 1913 to Vol. iii., No. 12, December 1915,

Vol. v., No. 3, March 1917.

July 24, 1920.

Gloucestershire Magpie. For 1892 read 1893.

Stroud Weekly Press. No. 1, June 28, 1895.

No. 1, January 1916. ConThe Link. tinued April 1918 as The Linkman. Discontinued July 1918. For Upton St. Leonards, read Gloucester. Index, Sec. I.-Cleave's has been placed after Clerkenwell and may therefore be missed. Index, Sect. II.-Reading Mercury, 218, omitted;ROLAND AUSTIN.

'POOR UNCLE NED (12 S. vi. 287; vii. 373, 438, 514; viii. 36).-I have two books which contain a vast number of songs(words only) viz., St. James's Song Book,' printed and published by R. March & Co., St. James's Walk, E.C., and Cole's Funniest Song Book in the World,' edited, &c., by E. W. Cole, Melbourne: Cole's Book Arcade, London: 25 Paternoster Row, E.C. Neither is dated. In the first a former owner has The name. "1896" under his written following is the song as it appears in the 'St. James's Song Book,' p. 545 :—

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1913. The Rich School Magazine. No. 1, De-His nails were longer than the cane in the brake,

cember; No. 2, July 1914 (Gloucester). 1914. The Star. The organ of the progressive forces of Cheltenham, Tewkesbury, Cirencester, &c. No. 1, Mar. 14 (Cheltenham).

1916. The Hillfield Magazine. No. 1, Nov. 25,

1916. Continued as The Palace Voluntary

Aid Hospital Magazine, No. 5, May 1917

to July 1918 (Gloucester).

No eyes had he for to see,
He had no teeth to eat the hoe-cake
So was forced to let the hoe-cake be.
Hang up the shovel, &c.

On a very cold morning poor uncle Ned died,
In his grave they laid him low,
And ev'ry nigger said, he was very much afraid,
His like they never more would know.

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