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to prove a negative. Still, the arguments that go of the ocean, and that on top of it hundreds of feet to prove that the affirmative of this query is false of tertiary beds have since been deposited. The amount almost to demonstration. To begin with pterodactyle, which was the last of the flying repthe pterodactyls. They lived in Liassic times, tiles, also vanished in the chalk period (see Owen, myriads of myriads of years before man. Tradi-Paleontology,' 1861, p. 275). I do not know tion therefore is out of the question. And if any whether gigantic birds have been found in Madaearly Briton had quarried out a specimen, he never gascar, but a colossal ostrich-like bird is supposed could have known that these were the bones of a to have lived during the historical period in New reptile which flew, for the time of Cuvier and of Zealand (see Mantell, 'Fossils of the British Owen and Huxley was not yet. The great birds Museum,' p. 94). of Madagascar and of New Zealand cannot be the HORACE W. MONCKTON, F.G.S. origin of the fable of the roc. There is first the monstrous improbability of stories of these birds finding their way to Arabia, and next the dinornis is utterly unlike the supposed roc-he could not fly; he was like an ostrich twelve feet high, and had a bone of him been found it would indubitably have been attributed to a giant man, as has been the fate of all big bones.

Temple.

There is a large amount of curious and discursive information in a volume recently published by Messrs. W. H. Allen, and entitled 'Mythical Monsters,' by Charles Gould, B.A. The author's desire is to show that

many of the so-called mythical animals......may be considered not as the outcome of exuberant fancy, but as creatures The Somerville Worm of Lynton must also be which really once existed." There is a long chapsent to the region of fable-unfounded fable-ter on the dragon and its geological analogues. for geology knows of no reptile in England, in recent times, bigger than our adder.

But why not take the obvious supposition that these animals are merely the creation of man's fancy? It requires little exercise of imagination to suppose a man sixty feet high, or with a jackal's head, or with ten arms and an elephant's head. The old naturalists-Elian, Pliny, &c.-describe

scores of animals that never existed. Whoever
will turn to Cuvier's 'Discours sur les Révolutions
sur la Surface du Globe,' will find there a general
massacre of them. Of some of them, e. g., the
unicorn, he demonstrates the impossibility, for
comparative anatomy refuses to believe in a cloven-
hoofed animal with a horn in the centre of his fore-
head.
J. CARRICK MOORE.

"Mr. Charles Gould, who is a member of the Royal
Society of Tasmania, and therefore presumably ac-
quainted with the strange fauna of the Antipodean
world, has compiled a book (published by Messrs. W. H.
Allen & Co.) on the subject of Mythical Monsters.'
Mr. Gould's opinion is that most of the monsters of fable
are not fabulous at all. On the contrary, he is of opinion
that there really bave been such animals as dragons and
gryphons, to say nothing of unicorns and (of course)
sea-serpents. And truly it must be confessed that some of
the pictures given of monsters which once actually walked
or crawled the earth and swam the seas are as strange as
anything in mythology and fairy-tale. Mr. Gould be-
lieves that a veritable dragon was the contemporary of
primitive man."-St. James's Gazette, February 3, 1886.
This appears to be just that for which MR. W. S.
LACH SZYRMA asks. FRANK REDE FOWKE.
24, Victoria Grove, Chelsea.

The animals referred to lived in this part of the world long before the appearance of man, so that any tradition respecting them can only be derived from fossil remains. This will be understood when we remember that they vanished whilst our English chalk was in process of formation at the bottom

WILLIAM E. A. AXON.

MR. LACH SZYRMA will find something about the roc in Col. Yule's admirable notes to his edition of Marco Polo.

H. J. MOULE.

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SOLUTION OF RIDDLE WANTED (7th S. i. 449). -The following answer to the bishop's riddle appeared in one of the periodicals a few years ago:

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For "Avis" read "Iris," prismatic in light,
And the "bird of bright plumage" appears to your sight.
So much being solved, I proceed to the rest.
Strike thy rod in the water-I swim on its breast-
When blown by the tempest, I "fly" in the air,
Or " run on the plain, if the surface be fair.
"Touching earth "I shall burst, and "expire" at your
feet.
In water absorbed I must die-in the heat
I evaporate-"death" from the "light
"Darkness" destroys me-I'm "lost to the sight
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JOHN CHURCHILL SIKES.

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21, Endwell Road, Brockley, S.E. "MY LUD" (7th S. i. 429).-The terms My lud" and "Your ludship" would appear to have been introduced subsequent to the days of 'Pickwick,' as we find no trace of them in the celebrated report of the trial Bardell v. Pickwick. Perhaps barristers may have adopted the terms to save themselves a little trouble, in the same way that the old Jew who was crying "O' clo'! O' clo' !" greatly to the annoyance of Coleridge, replied to the poet's remonstance, "I can say old clothes'

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as distinctly as you can; but if you had to repeat those words many hundreds of times in a day, as I am obliged to do, you would be glad to save yourself exertion by clipping the words to 'o' clo"!" CUTHBERT BEDE.

MARY OSBORNE, TEMP. CHARLES I. (7th S. i. 469). -Rudder has given, in his ' History of Gloucestershire' (1779), pp. 51-54, a list of the sheriffs of the county, with the years in which they served, from A.D. 1154 (1 Henry II.) to A.D. 1778, inclusive. A further list of these officials, from 1779 to the present year, will be found in Gloucestershire Notes and Queries, vol. iii.

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The Gloucestershire sheriffs are given by Rudder, 'Hist. of Gloucestershire,' Cirencester, 1779, pp. 5154. If E. B. is not able to see a copy, I can extract the list for temp. Charles I. ED. MARSHALL.

COUNTY BADGES (7th S. i. 470).-W. G. observes, 5th S. i. 194, "No county in England has any arms. They are merely districts which had neither banners nor corporate seal; and though of late the arms of ancient earls may have been assumed by topographers to adorn their publications, there can be no foundation for the pracED. MARSHALL.

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BONAPARTE FAMILY (7th S. i. 308).-I think the book referred to by MR. CHRISTIE must be a work translated from the German of Ferdinand Gregorovius by Edward J. Morris, and published by John E. Potter, of Philadelphia, entitled Corsica, Picturesque, Historical, and Social; with a Sketch of the Early Life of Napoleon, and an Account of the Bonaparte, Paoli, Pozzo di Borgo, and other principal families.'

HENRY A. OXER, Librarian. Portland Library Association, Portland, Oregon. SELF-BANISHMENT OF A LEPER (7th S. i. 449). -In the Daily News of June 4, 1886, one of the leading articles, "In the Valley of the Shadow of Death," is devoted to an account of Father Damen, a Jesuit, who banished himself to Molokai, the island in which the lepers from the Sandwich Islands are secluded, in order to minister to their spiritual wants. After twelve years he has himself fallen a victim to the fatal disease. Miss Bird's book of a residence for six months in these islands

is referred to as an authority, and may perhaps contain an account of the king who is said to have banished himself to the leper colony. W. E. BUCKLEY.

ANTONINE ITINERARIES (7th S. i. 221, 306, 435). I do not conceive that Thanet is to be identified with any set of islands in an ocean flowing between Gaul and Britain, though we may safely so describe Jersey, Guernsey, &c.

The passage now quoted is not an itinerary at all, but a geographical description; and, looking at the position given to Riduno in the Peutinger tablet, as compared with Riduna in the appendix to our Antonine iters, I suggest that the Isle of Portland will suit it better than Thanet. Dr. Giles gives the text thus: "In mari oceano, quod Gallias et Britannias interluit. Insulæ Orcades num. 3. Insula Clota in Hiverione. Vecta, Cæsarea, &c., for Guernsey and Jersey, but that Riduna" (the three). It is easy to append Sarmia, does not help us on to Thanet.

"THE LAIDLY WORM OF SPINDLESTON HEUGH'

(7th S. i. 420, 438, 457, 495).

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my conjectures, and sets the matter at rest. "The publication of Ritson's letters......confirms both "The Laidley Worm' .was the composition of Robert Lambe, Walter Scott, June 10, 1802."-Note in Raine's ' North Vicar of Norham, as he told me himself.' Ritson to Durham,' p. 264.

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Gradely-spelt as I have spelt it is a Lancashire word, well known and in common use. means- -well, perhaps the phrase comme il faut may best express what it means. Therefore it can have nothing to do with the worm of Spindleston (or Spindleton) Heugh. And I believe that the form graidley is a mere mistake for laidly, which A. J. M. latter, I presume, loathly.

PORTRAIT OF RICHARD PATES, TEMP. ELIZABETH (7th S. i. 348, 475).-A portrait of this Gloucestershire worthy is to be seen in Corpus Christi College, Oxford; and an old copy of it is in the custody of the head master of the Cheltenham Grammar School. This latter memorial of Richard Pates was exhibited at the meeting of the Bristol and Gloucestershire Archæological Society which was held at Cheltenham in April, 1877.

At Ludlow Castle there are arms of all the councillors of the marches of Wales of the time of Elizabeth. Amongst them are the arms of Richard Pates, one of these councillors, as follows: Argent, a chevron sable between three pellets, on a chief of the second three cross crosslets pattée of the first; and a note is added saying that he seems to have been of Gloucestershire family. These arms are the same as those of Pate of Cheltenham and Masterden, co. Glouc, which are, Argent, a

chevron sable between three ogresses, on a chief of the second as many cross crosslets of the first. Bigland says, in his History of Gloucester,' that Richard Pate founded the Free School and Hospital at Cheltenham in 1574. B. F. SCARLETT. Lennox Lodge, Eastbourne.

PATRON SAINT OF TEMPLARS (7th S. i. 288, 373). Hargrave Jennings, in 'The Rosicrucians,' p. 246, says St. John the Evangelist was the patron saint of the Knights Templars. What ground has he for this statement? The Temple Church is dedicated to the Virgin.

H. G. GRIFFINHOOFE.

SCROPE (7th S. i. 429).-Foster's Yorkshire Pedigrees' gives as the wife of Sir Adrian Scrope of Cockering, Mary, daughter of Sir Robert Carr, Bart. (not "Ann, daughter of Sir John "), of Sleaford, co. Lincoln, by Mary, daughter and coheiress of Sir Robert Gargrave, of Nostell, co. York; will dated August 16, 1685, proved October 28, same year. EST. H.

Miscellaneous.

NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.

Reports of Cases in the Courts of Star Chamber and High Commission. Edited by Samuel Rawson Gardiner, LL.D. (Camden Society.) ORIGINALLY Compiled, so far as the greater portion of the contents are concerned, for the late Mr. Bruce, by whom it was to have been edited, this volume of reports has been seen through the press by Dr. Gardiner, the Director of the Camden Society. It contains reports of cases in the Star Chamber from Easter Term, 1631, to Trinity Term, 1632, and of cases in the High Commission Court from October, 1631, to June, 1632. The sources whence the information is drawn, we are told in Dr. Gardiner's short and interesting preface, are Harleian MS. 4130 and Rawlinson MS. A 128, in the Bodleian. The Star Chamber reports open with a trial of some importance, "Viscount Falkland v. Lord Mountmorris and others for a combination to lay a scandal on the plaintiff," the imputation laid upon Lord Falkland being in the shape of a petition, which alleged that while late Lord Deputy of Ireland he had perverted the course of justice by compelling a grand jury to find a true bill in the case of a certain Philip Bushell, a man "of fower score yeare olde," and worth about 4,000," which resulted in his being hanged and his estate forfeited. So interesting is this case, the reader's regret is that further particulars are not preserved. The character of Sir Arthur Savage, one of the defendants, stands in a very favourable light. Among the Star Chamber cases that follow is one in which one Archer, of Southchurch, in Essex, is condemned to pay 100 marks to the Crown, and 10l. to the poor, and to stand in the pillories at Newgate Market, Leadenhall Market, and Chelmsford, for "enhancing the price of corn.' Riots in the Fens, riots and misdemeanour in church, forging a will, procuring the marriage of a child, coining farthing tokens, provoking a challenge, making hatbands with base metal are also among the Star Chamber cases, while the High Com

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mission reports include adding a scandalous table to the Psalms, blasphemous opinions, keeping conventicles, misprinting the Bible, removal of a bishop's bones, cast upon men like Laud and Abbot. Dr. Gardiner keeping Geneva Bibles, &c. A very edifying light is draws especial attention to a reference made by Laud to Prynne. The volume is one of the most instructive of the new series.

The History of the Parish of Poulton-le-Fylde, in the County of Lancaster. By Henry Fishwick. (Chetham Society.)

us.

COL. FISHWICK is a most industrious antiquary. There is not one of his many contributions to the local history of Lancashire which is so thorough as the volume before It might well be taken as a model by those who desire to put on permanent record what time has spared to us of the parishes in whose history they take especial interest. We have but one fault to find, and that is that Col. Fishwick has thought it necessary to print extracts from the parish registers. They are interesting so far as they go; but surely-especially as the manuscripts are some of them in bad condition-the proper plan would have been to print the whole of them down to the of assuring the existence of our old parish registers by preyear 1812. We have more than once urged the necessity serving them in type; and this is becoming year by year more needful as families spring up in America, Australia, and New Zealand who are anxious, from a feeling of natural piety which all must respect, to know all that can be known of their English "fore-elders." We heard but the other day of one of the most eminent men in an important British colony having communicated with persons in England in the hope of gaining some information as to the pedigree of an ancestor of his who had been transported on account of the results of a certain poaching affray. The pedigrees of the more important families may be traced almost without the aid of parish registers; but they are, as has been most truly said, "the only title-deeds of the poor." Col. Fishwick has printed an English version, by Mr. Joseph Gillow, the author of the well-known Biographical Dictionary of English Catholics,' of a Latin account of the plunder of Rossall Grange, the home of the widow of a brother of Cardinal Allen. It will interest many who have no sympathy with the religious convictions of the sufferer.

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As is the case with most books which are written in a thorough manner, the History of Poulton-le-Fylde contains some things which we should not have hoped Carlton within the memory of persons still alive, and for. A ducking-atool, we are told, existed at Great there is evidence that the church of Poulton was strewed

with rushes so late as 1765. A fee was paid to the churchwardens for burials in the church until even a later date. It has been rashly assumed that to the of this kind are recorded in so many places in various clergyman only belonged all burial fees; but payments parts of England that it is evident a common law right must have existed of a payment to the churchwardens for disturbing the floor of the church. There are some interesting memoranda concerning folk-lore at the end

of the volume.

An Historical and Genealogical Memoir of the Family of Poyntz. By Sir John Maclean, F.S.A. Part I. (Privately printed.)

THIS is, so far as it goes, a careful and at the same time life-like summary of the principal historical facts con nected with the Anglo-Norman house of Poyntz. It is based, like all the genealogical work of Sir John Maclean, on a collation of MS. as well as of printed records, and the extracts given from the MSS. in the Record Office and elsewhere are such as the general

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To the rapidly augmenting series of works published by the Sette of Odd Volumes have been added two works worthy in all respects of the companionship in which they find themselves. These consist of An Account of the Great Learned Societies and Associations, and of the Chief Printing Clubs of Great Britain and Ireland,' by Bro. Bernard Quaritch, Librarian of the Sette; and of the Inaugural Address' of Bro. George Clulow, the President. Both volumes are given to the club by the President. The earlier contains an address given recently at Willis's Rooms by Mr. Quaritch, and is a useful compendium; the second contains, in addition to the address of the incoming president, that of the outgoing, Bro. J. B. Brown.

historian ought to base his statements upon, though, unfortunately, he does not always seek them out. We have thus some extracts presented to our notice, giving a picture of agricultural prices in England in the nineteenth year of Edward III., about the date reckoned as the zenith of the Middle Ages. Sir Nicholas Poyntz had 34l, from eighty-five acres of land sown with wheat; 57s. from nine and a half sown with beans; 48s. from eight acres of barley; and 141. 28. from seventy and a half acres sown with peas, all on his lands of Cory Malet. His 281 acres of arable brought him in 221. 4s. 11d., and his meadowland, half a mark per acre. Sir John Maclean does not decide anything concerning the hero eponymus, Pons. The name, however, certainly seems to be a southern and western one, belonging to Avignon and THE July number of Walford's Antiquarian will con Lorris rather than to Normandy. We have not un- tain, among other interesting features, the conclusion of frequently met with it in charters of those countries, the editor's paper on Sir William Dugdale,' the second besides the well-known instance of the Counts of part of Miss Tucker's paper on 'St. David's,' and a Toulouse, which Sir John does not omit to notice, continuation of Mr. Greenstreet's communication, "The though we must allow ourselves a passing regret that Ordinary from Mr. Thomas Jenyns's Booke of Armes.' he should use the antiquated English form, with an intrusive h, "Tholouse." We find the name of Pons, mediately a new Introduction to the Gothic of Ulfilas,' MESSRS. TAYLOR & FRANCIS will publish almost imas a Christian name, in the 'Coutumes de Lorris,' in a list of knights of the balliva of Lorris, under Philip by Mr. T. Le Marchant Douse. This work, after disAugustus, where Pontius de Aula occurs (Nouv. Cussing the place of the Goths and their language in the Revue Hist. de Droit,' Paris, 1884, p. 537). We also Indo-European system, and the Gothic alphabet, infind Pontius Arnardus mentioned in the Coutumes vestigates the phonology, morphology, and syntax of de la Rép. d'Avignon,' in an inventory taken in the language in the light of the results of modern phi1255 by the Counts of Toulouse and Provence, of ser-lological research and the author's own re-examination vices due to them by inhabitants of the city of of the Gothic remains.

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Avignon (op. cit., 1878, p. 695). These are, of course, merely notes taken obiter of the occurrence of the name in the south and west of France two centuries after the Norman Conquest. But they may help Sir John Maclean to some fuller expression of his views as to the origin of the Anglo-Norman family of Poyntz in the future and concluding portion of his valuable memoir.

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Ecclesiastical English. By G. Washington Moon, Hon.
F.R.S.L. (Hatchards.)

In his former book, entitled 'The Revisers' English,'
Mr. Washington Moon demonstrated with great clear-
ness that the revisers of the New Testament were more
competent to unravel the mysteries of the Greek lan-
guage than to write English with accuracy. He has

now laid the same indictment against the revisers of the Old Testament, who fare but little better at his hands. Though the volume contains nothing but grammatical criticism, it is very far from being dull. The masterly and incisive style with which it exposes the grammatical blunders and the slipshod expressions of the revisers cannot fail to arrest the attention of any one who may glance through its pages. Nothing escapes Mr. Moon's vigilant eye; whether the blunder be great or small it is duly recorded against the offending revisers, and the chapter and verse for each quotation is given in every instance. Mr. Moon has succeeded in proving his case to the hilt, and there will be little doubt in the minds of his readers that, learned as the revisers undoubtedly were in the languages of antiquity, they had never completely mastered the intricacies of their mother tongue. So long as the study of our own language is neglected in our universities and public schools, it can never be a matter of surprise that many of our distinguished classical scholars should write English both inelegantly and ungrammatically. During the last few years, however, some steps have been taken in the right direction; but until blunders in English composition are regarded by the masters of our public schools in the same light as blunders in Latin or Greek prose we cannot hope for much real progress,

Notices to Correspondents.

We must call special attention to the following notices: ON all communications must be written the name and address of the sender, not necessarily for publication, but as a guarantee of good faith,

WE cannot undertake to answer queries privately.

must observe the following rule. Let each note, query, To secure insertion of communications correspondents or reply be written on a separate slip of paper, with the signature of the writer and such address as he wishes to appear. Correspondents who repeat queries are requested to head the second communication "Duplicate."

F. A. S. ALLEN seeks to know where a poem entitled The Painter of Seville,' and a second, by S. Wilson, entitled The Creeds of the Bells,' can be obtained.

R. A. P. ("A Nine Days' Wonder ").-The earliest use of this phrase seems to have occurred in John Heywood's Dialogues,' 1546, and Epigrammes,' 1562. The ques tion of the origin has often been asked. All the infor mation obtainable may be found 2nd S. xi. 478.

J. S. D. ("Engineers' Pattern Making ").-Apply to the Engineer.

J. W. seeks information as to "Wreckers and Wrecking.'

J. F. M. ("Author of 'Modern Greece: a Poem,' Murray, 1817").-Felicia Hemans.

JOHNSON BAILY ("Early Bible ").-The edition is in no estimation.

NOTICE.

Editorial Communications should be addressed to "The Editor of Notes and Queries ""-Advertisements and Business Letters to "The Publisher"-at the Office, 22, Took's Court, Cursitor Street, Chancery Lane, E.C.

We beg leave to state that we decline to return communications which, for any reason, we do not print; and to this rule we can make no exception.

Queries, with No. 30, July 24, 1886.

INDEX.

SEVENTH SERIES.-VOL. I.

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[For classified articles, see ANONYMOUS WORKS, BIBLIOGRAPHY, BOOKS RECENTLY PUBLISHED, EPIGRAMS, EPITAPHS, FOLK-LORE, PROVERBS AND PHRASES, QUOTATIONS, SHAKSPEARIANA, and Songs AND BALLADS.]

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Adderley family of Weddington, Warwickshire, 486 Addy (S. O.) on the Decameron' in English, 3

Gosling family, 354

"Lawrence bids," 269

Shepster, its meaning, 115

Village green, 102

Adria stony sea, 289, 435

Advent and St. Andrew's Day, 150, 256

Agorsequerdere Agues cured here, 89

Akeberga, its locality, 55

Aldgate pump, to "draw upon," 387, 493

Ale songs, index of, 323, 437

Alexander III., his monument at Kinghorn, 293

Alfonso, King of Spain, church begun by, 348
Allegory, painting by Frances Floris, 48

Allhallows the Great, its carved screen, 249, 417
Allington (Mr.), his vision in London, circa 1570, 369

Alloquor, occurrence of the word, 266

Almanacs, English, of the sixteenth century, 33; Murphy's, 70, 117; English, of the seventeenth century, 198; Paddywhack, or Paddy's Watch, 388, 477

Alpha on "Agorsequerdere," 89

Allhallows the Great, 417

Barton Street and Cowley Street, 247

Bibles, chained, 313

'Choice Notes,' 67

Clerk of the Kitchen, 12

De la Pole, Earls and Dukes of Suffolk, 325
Hudson (Sir James) and Earl Russell, 446
'Patient Grissil,' words in, 372

'Patrician, The,' 409

Queen's Day, 109

Seventh daughter superstition, 6

'Topic, The,' 508

Alverstoke, South Hants, its history, 188
Amateur on registers of wills in London, 469

America before Columbus, works on, 267, 411, 473
Anderson (D.) on the Act of Union, 194

Anderson (P. J.) on ale and beer songs, 437
Collegium Butterense, Aberdeen, 429
Crest-wreaths and mantles, 291
Fishes, their Scotch names, 8

Marischal College, Aberdeen, 129

Universities, two, in one city, 248, 415

Anglesea (Earl of), the last, 328, 455
Anglo-Irish ballads, 97

Anglo-Saxon names, 209, 329

Angus (Archibald, sixth Earl of), his parents, 52

Angus (G.) on Archdeacon and Wyville arms, 296 Feast of the Precious Blood, 392

Oxford halls, their arms, 72

Seal of Grand Inquisitor, 17, 99

Animals, legendary, 447, 516

Anonymous Works :

Ame des Bêtes, 50

Appendix to the Agreement of the People, 327 Ebrietatis Encomium, 216, 294

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