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Horse, and the Old Berkshires, and this he did for a period of thirteen years, often travelling fifty miles by road to a meet. His last season was that of 1877-8, for in the autumn of 1878 he was attacked with a complaint of the spine, which prevented him from riding."

Capt. Pitman was the eldest son of the Rev. S. Pitman of Oulton Hall, and was a magistrate for Norfolk and Somerset. He was a good shot, and much interested in agriculture. He died some years ago, and left (I believe) two sons and two daughters. The elder son is dead, and the second went to Australia. The daughters married, but I do not know whether they are still living.

C. T.

W. CARTER (11 S. vi. 410).—I assume that the person MR. CANN HUGHES asks about was of the last century, as he was buried in a cemetery; that being so, there were then four artists of that name.

In A Dictionary of Artists,' 1895, Mr. Algernon Graves enumerates three as having exhibited, viz., W. Carter (1849-50), William Carter (1836-76), and, lastly, the wellknown portrait painter of the present day, who exhibited a portrait of himself at the Royal Academy in 1910. The other two (who both address from London, and never Bristol), I came to the conclusion, after an inspection of the R.A. Catalogues, were the same person. But, on tracing their addresses out in the Post Office Directories, I do not think my conclusion can be right.

The fact is that they are, as was usual with the early Royal Academy Catalogues (see my note, 11 S. iv. 201), so mixed up that identification is most difficult, if not impossible. On referring to the Post Office Directory at the address given for "W. Carter in the Royal Academy Catalogue for 1849, I find he was also a " William," and that he was at 23, Philpot Lane, from 1847 to 1875, and his business is given as "architect and surveyor." He is the one first above-mentioned, and according to the Catalogues he exhibited once only at the Royal Academy, and that was in 1849, from 23, Philpot Lane, No. 297, An old gateway at Hanham [sic]. Mills, near Bristol.' The 1850 exhibit was at Suffolk Street Exhibition. Also in 1849 William Carter exhibited No. 16, A scene on the Tees,' and No. 1160, Sketch for a country residence'; and his address in the Royal Academy Catalogue index is 23, Alfred Place, Bedford Square. He is not in the Post Office Directory at that address, but at 238, High Holborn, which was his exhibition address for some years. He exhibited

at the British Institution from 1843 to
1861, his address being 238, High Holborn.
He was an artist. I think that No. 1160
really belonged to the architect of 23, Philpot
Lane, as did also other exhibits of an archi-
tectural kind indexcd under the "artist's"
name. Mr. Graves in The Royal Academy
Exhibitors' (this is the title on his bound
copies, and it is the running title, but the
title-pages have 'The Royal Academy of
(this was the
Arts) has "W. Carter
architect) for one picture only at the Royal
Academy in 1849. But Mr. Graves's next
entry is of the namesake whom I call the
artist, who exhibited "landscapes" at the
Royal Academy from 1847 to 1876. Among
his exhibits in 1847 I find No. 79 is A
It
Ferry at Hankham [sic], near Bristol.'
seems most curious that two persons of the
same name should both go to Bristol for their
subjects about the same time! Perhaps
the Bristol subjects belong to the artist
MR. CANN HUGHES inquires for, and to
neither of the others.

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In the Print-Room, British Museum, there three water-colour sketches sign ed "W. Carter," which are by the artist: one was given by Mr. Sidney Vacher.

RALPH THOMAS.

APPARENT DEATH (11 S. v. 428; vi. 16, 58, 133, 193, 353).--The real facts are these: Mr. Notman, a British subject, a Quaker, was inspector of the Imperial tanneries in Russia. He lived in a rather lonely district, and once, when he was far away on duty, Mrs. Notman was taken ill, and, as was supposed, died. For two days she was laid out for burial by the Russian servants in charge. Meanwhile a messenger was sent to Mr. Notman, then 600 miles away. John Howard was a very intimate friend of the Notmans, and happening just then, in his travels, to be within reach of their residence, he thought he would call to see them. On arriving at the house, to his surprise he was informed by the servants of what had occurred. Being a friend, he obtained permission to see the body, and observing that there was not so much change in appearance as ought to take place two days after death, he doubted its reality, and at once had recourse to restoratives. By applying the glass of his watch to her mouth, he detected signs of breathing, and stayed on till complete restoration was effected.

I had these facts from my mother-in-law, Mrs. Richard Knill, who was born after this event, and received the information direct from her mother, Mrs. Notman.

She

also told me that when, in 1832, she and Mr. Knill, her husband, landed from Russia in London, they drove direct to St. Paul's to see the monument to John Howard. Because of this singular service of Howard to the Notmans and Knills, one of my own sons, now in Colombo, bears the name of Howard, and one of my grandsons, now in Canada, the name of John Howard. CHARLES CHAPMAN.

Bristol.

THOMAS PRETTY, VICAR OF HURSLEY (11 S. vi. 131, 175, 455, 513). —Mrs. SUCKLING'S interesting notes re above appeared by a coincidence at the same time as the query about the Harveys of Whittington, Staffordshire. Ursula Harvey, who married Thomas Pretty at Whittington, 18 Sept., 1673, was daughter of Nicholas, not William, Harvey. Also, Harvey Combe, son of Edmund Combe and Katherine Pretty his wife, was baptized, not at Andover, but at St. Clement Danes, Strand, 27 Sept., 1716. He was buried at Andover 2 Aug., 1787. The connexion between the St. Johns and Prettys may have been through the Combes, as Edmund Combe's great-uncle, Sir Francis Topp, had a son Sir John, the last baronet (see Burke's 'Extinct Baronetage'), who married Barbara, daughter of Sir Walter St. John, Bart.

S. T.

LONG "S," DATE OF DISAPPEARANCE (11 S. vi. 386).-Interesting instances of the transition and disappearance of the long 8 are in Bewick's works.

The Quadrupeds.' - In the first four editions, printed by S. Hodgson at The Newcastle Chronicle office, and dated 1790, 1791, 1792, and 1800, the long s is used throughout each volume. In the subsequent editions, printed by Edward Walker at The Newcastle Courant office, and dated 1807, 1811, 1820, and 1824, the short s is used throughout.

'The Birds,' Vol. I. In the first two editions, printed by Hodgson, both dated 1797 (although the second was not issued until 1798), the 1804 demy 8vo, and the royal 8vo edition, also dated 1804-but not published until 1814 or 1815 (see 11 S. vi. 281)-both printed by Walker, the longs is used throughout. In the 1809 edition the long 8 is used in the Preface, Introduction, Explanation of Technical Terms, and Contents, and the short & in the body of the work. In the 1816 and subsequent editions the short s is used throughout.

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'The Birds,' Vol. II.-In the first edition, printed by Walker, and dated 1804, the short 8 is used in the Advertisement," or preface (which is printed in italics, and dated Newcastle upon Tyne, July 3, 1804"), and the long s in the remainder of the volume. In the second edition, dated 1805 (royal 8vo), the Preface (dated Newcastle upon Tyne December, 1805") is a new one printed in roman letters, and the long s is used throughout the volume. In the 1809 edition the long 8 is used in the Preface and Introduction, and the short s in the body of the work. In the 1816 and subsequent editions the short & is used throughout.

The Fables of Esop and Others.-The short s is used throughout the two editions, printed by Walker, dated 1818 and 1823.

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NOVELS IN NORTHANGER ABBEY' (11 S. vi. 449).-The Biographical Dictionary of Living Authors,' 1816, includes The Midnight Bell,' 3 vols., 12mo, amongst the works of George Walker (1772-1847), a London bookseller; as no date of publication is given, but that of a preceding work is 1813, it would seem to be 1814 or 1815. The Dictionary of National Biography attributes to George Walker "The Midnight Bell, London, 1824." Under heading as above in the British Museum Catalogue the work in English does not appear, but there is "La Cloche de Minuit. Traduit de l'ang-. lais [1799]," with cross-reference Cloche,' and at the latter heading a MS. alteration of "G. Walker to Francis Lathom. Search under the last-mentioned name resulted in finding "The Midnight Bell, a German story, founded on incidents in real life. In 3 vols. By Francis Lathom," second edition, A. K. Newman & Co., Leadenhall Street, 1825; and also in the discovery that, as one of many works, there is ascribed to Francis Lathom (1777– 1832) in the 'Dictionary of National Biography' "The Midnight Bell, 3 vols., London, 1798; another edition, 1800." The authorship of the novel appears, therefore, to be in dispute, and the circumstance of its attribution in the Dictionary of National Biography' to two different writers is curious, as it appears hardly probable that separate novels bearing the same title would be brought out within a few years of each other.

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George Walker is said by Halkett and Laing to have published "The Haunted Castle, a Norman Romance, 2 vols., 1794," which is also credited to him in the 'Bibl.

Dict. of Living Authors,' 1816, so that he appears to have written anonymously at times. The Midnight Bell,' bearing Francis Lathom's name on its titlee-page, has its scenes and characters in Germany, but nothing to show it to be a translation. It is a widely printed romance of the Mrs. Radcliffe school, with plenty of space and margin in its three small volumes, and might easily be contained in one of quite moderate size.

I have come across no other novels in the Northanger Abbey' list, and am inclined to think several, at least, of the names given are parodies or imitations, and not actual titles of published works. The authoress of 'Clermont is given in the Biog. Dict. of Living Authors as Regina Maria Roche. W. B. H.

"PROCK" (11 S. vi. 447). The singular belief to which MR. THORNTON refers is well known. Sir Thomas Browne discussed it in one of the most entertaining chapters of his Pseudodoxia Epidemica,' Book III. 5, and found it repugnant unto the three determinators of truth, Authority, Sense and Reason." The objection with which he concludes is worth quoting :

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Lastly, The monstrosity is ill contrived, and with some disadvantage; the shortnesse being affixed unto the legs of one side, which might have been more tolerably placed upon the thwart or Diagoniall movers."

Browne, while speaking of this vulgar error as "perhaps not very ancient," refers to Albertus Magnus (thirteenth century) as confessing he could not confirm the verity hereof."

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Those who attended the luncheon held after the unveiling of Sir Thomas Browne's statue at Norwich on the tercentenary of his birth, 19 Oct., 1905, will remember Lord Avebury's speech, in which he described how, on an occasion when the point was put to a practical test, two persons were found to declare that when they looked at the badger the legs on one side did appear longer than those on the other. But on comparing notes, it appeared that one gave the preference to the left, the other to the right. EDWARD BENSLY.

YELVER IN PLACE-NAMES (11 S. vi. 191, 218, 297, 352, 416).—May I say, in reference to the Yelverton in South Devon referred to by MR. A. L. MAYHEW at the last reference, that this version of the name dates practic. ally, I believe, from the opening of the railway station SO called? I distinctly recollect that in a map. of the district round

Plymouth dating, I think, from about 1849 the place was then called Elfordtown. The Elfords were a well-known family residing in the neighbourhood in Queen Elizabeth's time, and long subsequently.

I have also found since writing the above that the spelling Elfordtown appears not only in two other local maps published in Plymouth and Devonport from forty to fifty years since, viz., Heydons's Devonport and Sellick's 'Plymouth,' but it is found in the Government Ordnance Map itself. W. S. B. H.

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DANDER (11 S. vi. 468).-Halliwell enters dander in the Archaic Dictionary,' and says that in various dialects it signifies "anger." He does not venture on the derivation of the term. Brewer in Phrase and Fable' definitely states that "the word is a corruption of d- anger,' and adds that "this is generally considered to be an Americanism." On the other hand, in Scotland smithy cinders are called danders." Though not of a particularly fiery quality, these have possibilities, as is thus shown in a national lyric :

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And when the callans, romping thick,
Did crowd the hearth alang,
Oft have I blown the danders quick
Their mizlie shins amang.

its association with the blacksmith's shop, Discussing this term, both in reference to iron or of the refuse of glass, Jamieson in and as denoting a piece of the scorice of the 'Scottish Dictionary' is disposed to connect it with Isl. tendr-a, adding that "Tindr-a signifies to emit sparks.' Perwhen it is said that "the dander is up." haps, then, the kindling process is suggested

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I suspect dander" is a form of tinder: to get a man's dander up is to set his temper afire. "Tander," as the 'E.D.D.' testifies, is used in Pembrokeshire as the name of a rotten phosphorescent stick," and something very like the word is seen on those boxes of Swedish lucifers which one meets with on the Continent.

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Wut 'll make ye act like freemen ?
Wut 'll get your dander riz?

J. Russell Lowell's

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Biglow Papers.' 'He was as spunky as thunder, and when a Quaker gets his dander up, it's like a North-wester.'Major Jack Downing's Letters,' p. 75."

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Every native or fairly acclimatized reader of this understood that his jag" was his "load," his "drunk"; that this night

bird-so far over-seas as to use his umbrella for a latchkey, disregard the grime of the bed in the bath-tub with his overcoat and coalhole for his costliest clothes, and go to silk hat on-must have waked up to a realization of a heavy load ("jag ") on his

A spunk," it may be noted, is a spark head, very much with him. in some parts of the British Isles.

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The phrase "to get one's dander up' IRISH (ANGLO-IRISH) FAMILIES: TAYLOR was familiar to Londoners fifty or sixty OF BALLYHAISE (11 S. vi. 427).—Wm. Taylor years ago. It came over from America of Romney, Kent, and his wife Mary, dau. in some works of the period. Thackeray of Richard Taylor of Cranbroke in the uses it in Pendennis, xliii.: "When my same county, had a son, John Taylor of dander is up, it's the very thing to urge me Cambridge, gent., the patentee, in 1609, on." Its origin is uncertain, but it is con- of Ballyhaise, co. Cavan, who m. Anne, jectured to be a figurative use of dander dau. and heir of Henry Brockhill of Allington, =ferment, now commonly called dunder," in Thurnham, and was succeeded by his which is the lees or feculence of previous son, Brockhill Taylor of Ballyhaise (M.P. distillations. It is very rapid in action, for Cavan Borough, 1634, till his death, and is used in the West Indies in the making

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10 July, 1636), who left 2 daus., his coheirs, Eliza, born 1625, and Mary, born 1632. The latter m., 1654, Capt. Thos. Newburgh, and

THE STONES OF LONDON (11 S. vi. 429, carried Ballyhaise into his family, now 515).-Totternhoe stone :—

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The great church and priory of Dunstable, as well as parts of St. Albans Cathedral and Westminster Abbey, were built of this stone."- Dunstable: its History and Surroundings,' by Worthington G. Smith, Homeland Library Series."

Dunstable.

H. H. W. FYNMORE.

J. H. R. will find much interesting information on this subject in Mr. John Watson's 'British and Foreign Building Stones,' published in 1911 by the Cambridge University Press.

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“JAG" (11 S. vi. 411). As the subject has been reopened by MR. DEFERRARI, I ask permission to re-enter the field by asserting, good-naturedly, but decisively, that never was used for or understood umbrella " by any American from to ocean-Yankee, Cracker, Wolverene, Pogonipper, or what not. Mr. Farmer, in his Dictionary of Americanisms,' has simply misconstrued the joke in the newspaper clipping there given. As not all readers of N. & Q.' may have the dictionary at hand, I copy the extract :

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"He came in very late (after an unsuccessful effort to unlock the front door with his umbrella), through an unfastened coalhole in the sidewalk. Coming to himself toward daylight, he found him self-spring overcoat, silk hat, jag, and allstretched out in the bath-tub."

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VARIANTS IN THE TEXT OF 'KENILWORTH (11 S. vi. 488).---I have not at the moment access to the "original" editions, but in the first collected edition of the

Waverley Novels, edited by the author, 1829-32, in forty-eight volumes, the passage in question (vol. xxii. p. 251) stands thus :

"And is this all that are of you, my mates, said Tressilian, that are about my lord in his utmost straits?'

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Women, when nothing else, beguiled the heart Of wisest Solomon.

Part of Satan's reply to this is :

But he whom we attempt is wiser far
Than Solomon, of more exalted mind,
Made and set wholly on the accomplishment
Of greatest things. What woman will you find,
Though of this age the wonder and the fame,
On whom his leisure will vouchsafe an eye
Of fond desire ?

I take the Song of Solomon to be a poetical drama, its chief characters being Solomon, a Shulamite girl (whom Solomon desires for his harem), a shepherd of Shulem (the girl's lover), and the ladies of the harem (daughters of Jerusalem), who form a kind of chorus. W. H. PINCHBECK.

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In the old Royal Burgh of Jedburgh, the county town of Roxburghshire, he curfew bell is rung every evening at eight o'clock. A bell is also rung at ten o'clock, and one in the morning at six o'clock. The bell is situated in the town's steeple, in which there are three bells altogether, viz. (1) that presented to the kirk by Robert, Lord Jedburgh, in 1692; (2) that popularly called the "Court bell; and (3) the alarm bell. James Watson in his excellent "History of the Abbey of Jedburgh' says :— "While collecting material for the first edition of this work (1877) we had occasion to visit the

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"The Rev. H. T. Ellacombe, The Rectory, Clyst St. George, Topsham, an authority on the subject of old bells, had his attention called to this interesting discovery by a communication in N. & Q.,' and to him, he gave it as his opinion that this was a having had a rubbing of the inscription submitted Sanctus bell, and probably belonged to the Abbey.

"The words he says] were intended for a leonine verse, but the founder has made a blunder, and placed two words out of order. Founders often made such blunders, putting letters upside down. The correct line would be thus: 'Campana: Margarete: Virginis: Beate,' or made so that Beate and Margarete' should run in rhyme. The date of the bell is the fifteenth century." Watson adds :

"It is right to say that other authorities have fixed the fourteenth century as the probable date.” Regarding the bell on which the curfew is rung, it may at once be said that no sweetertoned bell could be desired: one of the many memories taken with them by those who have left their native town is the recollection of that musical note which in their early years reminded them of the westering of the setting sun in the long evenings of the summer days.

J. LINDSAY HILSON.

Bonjedward, Jedburgh.

SECRET SERVICE (11 S. vi. 370, 430).—I now find that the contribution to the third series of "Oxford Studies in Social and Legal History," referred to in my reply, is by Mr. A. W. Ashby, a son of Mr. Joseph Ashby, who wrote the original articles in The Warwick Advertiser.

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HARVEYS OF WHITTINGTON, STAFFORDSHIRE (11 S. vi. 449).-Burke probably took these arms from Shaw's Staffordshire,' vol. i. p. 377, where it is stated, s.v. 'Whittington,' that

the other two seats described in Plot's map are The other for Harvey, Esq. Arms: Arg., on a bend Sable three trefoils slipt Or, with a crescent in chief Azure. Their respective houses I cannot now ascertain, but there are two, one opposite Babington's, picturesquely shaded with elms, now inhabited by Mrs. Dabbs." This would lead to the inference that a seat of the Harveys is described in Plot's 'Staffordshire,' but this is not so, the number on the map merely indicating that the family of Harvey, whose arms are there engraved,

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