bers are allowed to vote. Associate members and juniors, under the constitution, have no vote.

Mr. Wilson:-I make a motion that a recess of ten minutes be taken by the members so that they can discuss the matter before coming to a vote.

Mr. Mackay:—I second that motion and ask that the names of the members of the council and board of managers be placed on the blackboard, as was done last year.

The President:-It was moved that we take a recess of ten minutes and that the names of candidates be placed on the board, so that members may have opportunity for mature deliberation.

Mr. Cary: I think the names of all the candidates had better be put on the board.

The motion was carried and a recess of ten minutes was taken. The secretary wrote on the blackboard the names of all the candidates. After the recess the president asked the members to vote for a president. Mr. Barron announced the result of the ballot for president to be as follows: Prof. R. C. Carpenter, 16; Mr. C. W. Newton, 1; Mr. W. M. Mackay, 10.

The President:-Gentlemen, you have heard the announcement of the vote. Prof. Carpenter having the majority of the votes is declared elected.

Mr. Mackay:-I move that the election of Prof. Carpenter be made unanimous. (Motion carried.)

Mr. Jellett: Prof. Carpenter, I am very glad to introduce you to the members of the American Society of Heating and Ventilating Engineers as their new president.

Prof. Carpenter:-I think, Mr. President, that properly I should not take possession until next year. I thank the society very much for the honor conferred and will try to do my duty as far as may be, although I do not expect to do as much as my predecessors or as your predecessor.

Mr. Jellett then resigned the chair to Prof. Carpenter.

The President:-It is now in order to vote for vice-president. Mr. Quay: If it is in order I would like to ask that the name of Mr. C. W. Newton be substituted for mine as first vice-president. I think it would be a good thing for the society to elect him as first vice-president.

Mr. Wilson: It would be unwise to make any substitution. Mr. Quay has taken an active interest in everything pertaining to the society and I would ask him to allow his name to stand.

The President:-Please prepare your votes for first vice-president and the second and third-three separate ballots.

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The meeting then balloted for vice-presidents.

The President:-While the tellers are counting these ballots you may prepare your votes for secretary and treasurer.

Mr. Barron announced the result of the ballot for first vice-president to be as follows: D. M. Quay, 20; J. H. Kinealy, 7.

The President:-D. M. Quay having 20 votes and J. H. Kinealy 7, it would seem that Mr. Quay is elected.

Mr. Stangland:-I move that Mr. Quay's vote be made unanimous. (Motion carried.)

Mr. Barron:-I wish to announce that there are two votes for C. W. Newton.

The President:-They should be included in the report but do not affect the result. The tellers are prepared to announce the result for second vice-president.

Mr. Barron announced the result of the ballot for second vicepresident to be as follows: E. P. Bates, 14; W. F. Wolfe, 12.

Mr. Wolfe:-I move that it be made unanimous. (Motion carried.)

The President:—Mr. Bates is elected unanimously. The tellers are ready to announce the result for third vice-president.

Mr. Barron:-Mr. F. W. Foster received 14 votes; Mr. Joseph A. Langdon, 9; Mr. James A. Taylor, 1; Mr. W. M. Mackay, 1.

The President: Mr. Foster seems to have clearly a majority of all the votes cast. If there is no objection I declare that the votes show Mr. Foster elected.

Mr. Mackay:-Will it not be necessary to put another name on the board of managers to take the place of Mr. Quay who is to be one of the vice-presidents?

Mr. Wolfe's name was put on the blackboard for the board of managers.

The President:-The tellers will now prepare to collect the ballots for secretary and treasurer.

Mr. Wolfe: Gentlemen, I am very much obliged to you. But the other nomination was made without my knowledge and had you been kind enough to elect me to the office I could not have taken it, because, as it is, I have more than I can do, and I do not want to assume a position when I cannot do justice to it. I did have the position of vice-president one year and I was unable to do you or myself justice by any actual work.

The President:-While the tellers are counting the votes for secretary and treasurer, will you please prepare your votes for the board of managers-five names?

Mr. Barron announced the result of the ballot for secretary to be as follows: L. H. Hart, 26; James A. Harding, 1.

The President:-You hear the announcement, gentlemen. Mr. Hart has received the majority.

A Member:-I move that it be made unanimous.

A Member:-I move that the thanks of the association be tendered to Mr. Hart for his very able services to the society.

The President:-I think we had better make that a separate motion.

The motion to make Mr. Hart's election unanimous, was put and carried. The motion that Mr. Hart receive the thanks of the association was carried by a standing vote. The president requested the mover of the resolution to put it in writing.

Mr. Barron announced the result of the ballot for treasurer to be as follows: J. A. Goodrich, 24; A. A. Cryer, 4.

Mr. B. H. Carpenter:-I move that it be declared unanimous. (Motion carried.)

The President:-Has every one voted for the board of managers? If so, I declare the ballot closed. Please prepare your votes for members of the council. It was voted at the meeting yesterday that it was the sense of the society that three of the members of the council should live in New York, or some other one city, for convenience of getting together.

Mr. Mackay:-It was not the intention to mention New York, but that three of the council be from one city, where they could get together.

The President:-The names of the nominees are written on the board. As the tellers may be some time in counting the votes for the board of managers and the council, I would suggest that the topics of discussion, which I think are the next thing on the programme, be taken up, and then we can stop at any time and finish the voting, or listen to the report of the tellers.

Mr. Jellett: Could not the tellers first collect the ballots for council and count them all? Then the members would not have to take that matter up again.

The President:-It is suggested that the votes for council be collected and the returns given later. I think that would be a good plan, so please prepare your votes for members of the council.

The tellers collected the ballots for members of the council. The President:-The next order of business, I see by the programme, is new business. Is there any new business to be brought up before the society before taking up topical discussions?

Mr. Wolfe:-Yesterday it occurred to me that possibly we did not give enough attention to the matter of holding a semi-annual meeting. I believe that such a thing is provided for in our by-laws.

If the business men here will stop to think, they must know that the holding of these meetings entails considerable expense, and it is a question in my mind if we are quite strong enough yet to bear the expense of two meetings a year. I simply offer this as a suggestion but I hope the members will think of it.

Mr. Cary:—I must say, Mr. President, that I am quite in harmony with Mr. Wolfe's ideas on this subject. I believe we have had three meetings now. Each one has been I think, more successful than its predecessor. I believe we have 107 members now, and I fin that 54 have attended this meeting, or about half the membership.. Considering the territory over which they are distributed, that makes this a very successful meeting. I think we are still a little too young to attempt a semi-annual meeting. This meeting is successful; our other meetings have been successful, and should we attempt a meeting that would not be successful I think it would take a long time to recover from it. I think we should go on for a little while until our membership increases, so that we will get an attendance of perhaps a hundred, and it looks as though that time is very near; and then I think the matter of semi-annual meetings should be considered more seriously. But to risk the danger of an unsuccessful meeting I think it hardly worth while. I must say I have not the temerity to go into it and sanction it. I believe a semiannual meeting is required by our by-laws, and I would offer a motion, which I believe is in order, that the semi-annual meeting be omitted this year and that the next meeting be an annual meeting. Mr. Jellett:-I second that motion. I think the reasons are good.. The President:-You hear the motion to omit the semi-annual meeting for the ensuing year. The question is now before you for discussion.

Mr. Quay:-Our by-laws say that the annual meeting shall be held in New York. It is not because I do not live in New York that I think it wise to have a semi-annual meeting. There are very few people here from any of the Western cities. I think that if we had a semi-annual meeting in some of the other cities we could thereby awaken greater interest than by having all our meetings. in New York. There is another reason—our society is new and there are lots of questions coming up. Quite a number have been considered since our last annual meeting and I believe we could have done more work-our committees would have done more work-if we had had a semi-annual meeting. A year is a good while to wait to have a decision on an important. question. The committee on uniform contract and specifications have not done very much, but I think we had a report nearer ready

six months ago than we have now. The trouble is we put things off until a short time before the meeting. Of course, the point is well taken that if we had a semi-annual meeting which was not a success it would be worse than not to have one. But I believe we could get more interest from the members and get more members from the other cities if we were to have a semi-annual meeting and have it in some other city. I do not think the Mechanical Engineers' semi-annual meetings have been a failure at all. I am not a member of that society, but from the reports I have seen they have been successful. This is an older and much larger society, and there is no reason why we should not follow in their footsteps and learn from their experience.

Mr. Cary: The Mechanical Engineers have a very large membership, and if you take the percentage of members who attend their meetings—and I do not see why a larger percentage of our membership should attend our meetings-it would give us a pretty small meeting I am afraid. Our meetings have been very successful, increasing each time. As I said before, I do not think that we are large enough to branch out and try to take in too much. I think that by going slowly a little while we will come out all right with our semi-annual meetings and create interest in other sections of the country, although I think we are doing that now. I think that we are growing slowly and in a healthy way, and I do not think there is any necessity for holding semi-annual meetings somewhere else for the sake of increasing interest. I think there is a great deal of interest now. I do not say but what there could be more, but I think the society is in a very healthy condition, and I think we had better leave experimenting alone until we are a little stronger and can stand it better.

Mr. Wolfe: There is one other side of the question; you might call it the bread and butter side. At this season of the year, of course many of us can as well be here as not. Building is not going on, the weather prevents work on buildings, and we are in a measure idle. If we had a semi-annual meeting it would be probably some time between the first of June and the first of August, and I think most of our members then do not have much time to spare. While I would like to get to the meeting, I am very much inclined to think that I could not go. I have never been able to find a week in the summer time when I could take a vacation. There is that side to look at, too; and then, as Mr. Cary says, better no meeting at all than a poor one.

Mr. Mackay:-I would say, Mr. President, that while it was decided not to have a summer meeting, I found a large number of