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Will one of the readers of "N. & Q." oblige me
with the date of the journal which contains this
correction?
W. C.

"Timbale, and salpicon à l'Espagnole."

J. DIXON.

AUTHORS OF BOOKS WANTED.-
Conversations at Cambridge. London, John W.
Parker, 1836, 12mo. The author of this was inquired
for by OLPHAR HAMST in 4th S. x. 393, but no reply
C. W. S.

former (becoming epidemic) might be chronicled
as "the pestilence," I cannot understand why
the plague proper should be spoken of as "the
sweat." Paré, indeed, gives a particular account
of "the sweat," describing it as a disease which
had an English origin, which "the plague" cer-
tainly had not. Writing concerning the ravages
of epidemic disorders (and wisely condemning the
then general use of the lancet, "because they
commonly dyed who were either let bloud or
purged") he says:-

"DON JUAN," CANTO XV. STANZA 66.-I have two copies of Don Juan, one in the London edition of the Works (Murray), 8 vols., 1839, the other in the Paris edition (Galignani), 7 vols., 1825. In both copies stanza 66, canto xv., begins thus:"Then there were God knows what à l'Allemande, A l'Espagnole, timbale, and salpiconWith things I can't withstand or understand, Though swallowed with much zest upon the whole." "Such also was the English Sweating-sicknesse or Was the missing rhyme of the second with the Sweating-feaver, which unusuall [i.e., uncommon occur fourth line set to rights in any other edition ?rence], with a great deale of terrour invaded all the low parts of Germany, and the Low Countryes, from the Salpicon is a Spanish dish, and I suppose Byron year 1525 unto the year 1530, and that chiefly in the wrote, or intended to write, Autumne. As soone as this pestilent disease entred into any City, suddenly two or three hundred fell sick on one day, then it departing thence to some other place. The people strucken with it, languishing, fell down in a swoune, and, lying in their beds, sweat continually, having a feaver, a frequent, quick and unequall pulse; neither did they leave sweating till the disease left them, which was in one or two dayes at the most; yet, freed of it, they languished long after; they all had a beating or palpitation of the heart, which held some for two or three yeeres, and others all their life after. At the first beginning it killed many, before the force of it was known; but afterwards very few, when it was found out by practice and use, that those who furthered and continued their sweats and strengthened themselves with cordials, were all restored. But at certain times many other popular diseases sprung up, as putrid feavers, fluxes, bloudy-fluxes, catarrhes, coughs, phrensies, squinances, pleurisies,......small pockes and meazels, scabs, carbuncles, and maligne pustles. Wherefore the plague is not alwayes, nor every where of one and the same kind, but of divers; which is the cause that divers names are imposed upon it, according to the variety of the effects it -The Workes brings and symptomes which accompany it."of that famous Chirurgeon, Ambrose Parey. Translated out of Latine and compared with the French by Th. Johnson. London, Printed for Th. Cotes and R. Young. Anno 1634, p. 821.

came.

AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTed.— "The anxious blessing of an only son."

Replies.

PESTILENCE IN ENGLAND IN 1521.

(6th S. ix. 269, 317, 377, 430.)

L.

I think it highly probably that in the reference given by DR. BRINSLEY NICHOLSON (Measure for Measure, I. ii.) the allusion is to the epidemic known specifically as "the sweating sickness" and "the sweating fever," rather than to "the true plague." The nomenclature of diseases was quite arbitrary amongst medical writers until comparatively recent times. The "sanitary Noting, therefore, that the sequele "held some condition" of the people in the sixteenth century for two or three yeeres, and others all their life is known to have been of a character most favour-after," it is clear to my mind that Mistress Overable to the spread of zymotic disease in all its Protean forms; and there have been epidemics, other than "the true plague," which (being accompanied, perhaps, with specific action upon the lymphatic system and with hæmorrhagic effusion, as in typhus fever) were also described as "the Plague," "the Pestilence," "the Black Death," &c. In Shakspere's time, "the Plague" was a generic epithet applied to what Ambrose Paré significantly calls" popular diseases," and that distinguished surgeon and acute observer has placed upon record the fact that putrid fevers, small-pox, measles, and other zymotic diseases, have at different times gone by that name. The symptoms accompanying the sweating sickness were, however, entirely the opposite of those which distinguished "the true plague," and although I can readily believe that such a distemper as the

don is represented to have been thinking of the sweating sickness, and not of "the true plague," when she gave utterance to her querulous complaint. It is worth noting, too, that Paré, after localizing "the sweat" as an "English" malady, describes its importation into the Low Countries at a date (1525) only a few years subsequent to that fixed by DR. NICHOLSON, viz., 1521. The chronicles use very vague language in referring to epidemics; but "the sweat" was something si generis, and I observe that it is so alluded to both by Fabyan and Stow. The latter gives 1518 as the date of a visitation of this sickness, and, taking Paré as our authority, we may assume that the debilitating effects of the disease continued to be felt by its victims in 1521 and later.

Elm Grove House Exeter.

ALFRED WALLIS

:

HENSHAW (6th S. ix. 349, 368, 376, 436).-The This was probably the portrait engraved by Grozer EDWARD SOLLY. Christian name of Henshaw of Eltham, Alderman in 1786. and Lord Mayor of London, who married Elizabeth SIR NATHANIEL WRAXALL (6th S. ix. 387, Roper, sometimes appears as "Edward"; so per-457).-The following version of these lines is given, haps under this name he may be in the list given

in Noorthouck's History. He had one son, who among some curious epitaphs, at the end of died an infant, and three daughters: Susanna Beeton's Book of Anecdote, Wit, and Humour Henshaw, who married in 1729 Sir Rowland Winn, (Ward, Lock & Co.). The authorship is assigned fourth baronet; Katherine Henshaw, who married to Geo. Colman the Younger :

William Strickland, of Boynton, and had no issue; and Elizabeth Henshaw, who married in 1728 Sir Edward Dering, fifth baronet, great-great-grandfather of the present Sir Edward Dering, Bart. At Nostel Mr. Rowland Winn has the celebrated picture by Hobbema of the trial of Sir Thomas More; in it there is the portrait of a Henshaw, obviously an ancestor of Edward Henshaw the alderman, Sir Thomas More's daughter Elizabeth having married Mr. Roper. I am still anxious to ascertain the parentage of Edward Henshaw. His death in 1726, æt. sixty-four, is in the register of Eltham.

CONSTANCE RUSSELL.

Swallowfield Park, Reading.

THE MOST NOBLE ORDER OF BUCKS (6th S. viii. 361; ix. 454).-MR. BOHN's letter reminds me of one of the most genial and best informed men it has ever been my fortune to meet the late Mr. John Henry Skelton. At the time I made his acquaintance, about 1848, he was in reduced circumstances, holding the office of inspector for one of the gas companies. He was always well dressed and wore a wig. I think he told me that one of the rules of the Bucks was that no member should ever appear twice in the same waistcoat. I think almost the last time I saw Skelton was when, passing through the churchyard of St. Paul's, Covent Garden, he was following his only son to JAY KER. the grave.

ILLITERACY (6th S. ix. 407, 455).—In connexion with the late discussion it is curious to note that Italians, who have not the word illiterate at all or any compound (though they supply us with letterato), have invented a seemingly synonymous word to express a lower degree of ignorance, viz., analfabeto, for a person who cannot read at all. R. H. BUSK.

EARL FITZWILLIAM PAINTED BY SIR JOSHUA REYNOLDS (6th S. ix. 468). The picture which G. D. T. is inquiring after is probably that in the possession of the Earl of Zetland. It was exhibited in the Second Loan Collection of National Portraits in 1867, and is numbered 712 in the G. F. R. B. Catalogue.

A portrait of the fourth Earl Fitzwilliam, 17481833, painted by Sir J. Reynolds, was exhibited at South Kensington by the Earl of Zetland in 1867. It is described in the catalogue as "Bust, young; black dress, white collar. Canvas, 30x25 in."

Misplacing, mistaking,
Misquoting, misdating,

Men, manners, things, and facts all,
Here lies Sir Nathan. Wraxall."

This version scans better than any of the three
already quoted.

ALPHA.

SERJEANTS' RINGS (6th S. ix. 446). — In vol. v. of the Transactions of the London and Middlesex Archæological Society there is a paper "On the Serjeants and their Inns," by E. W. Brabrook, p. 234. This contains the "Presentation of the Rings," pp. 239, 246, and 248, I and the "Cessation of the Custom" at p. 249. only have the Index, so cannot give further parB. F. SCARLETT. ticulars.

66

I have

REFORMADES (6th S. ix. 318, 432).-AS CANON VENABLES has not given the context, it is not possible to be quite sure what his quotations from Bunyan's Holy War signify. I have no doubt, however, that land up" means to " silt up"; or, as the "bank writer was describing a siege, perhaps to up with earth." In Lincolshire it means to "silt up," and, so far as I know, that only. of times. A Trentside heard it used scores farmer complained to me a short time ago that a 66 was that landed certain outfall drain in Gunness up wi' warp that a goose couldn't get wetshod in it." In the Instructions for Jury-men on the Commission of Sewers, a little book published in And in W. 1664, we read, "Your water courses......be landed up and want ditching" (p. 35). 66 a serpentine fishMarratt's History of Lincolnshire, 1815, vol. iii. P. 243, there is mention of pond about 200 yards long, but partly landed up."

EDWARD PEACOCK.

Bottesford Manor, Brigg. AN UNPUBLISHED THE D'ORVILLE MSS.: LETTER OF R. PORSON TO DR. RAINE (6th S. ix. 444).-The Mr. Nares alluded to in the abovenamed letter was undoubtedly the Rev. Robert Nares, afterwards Archdeacon of Stafford, and a man well known in the literary world. On the authority of Alumni Westmonasterienses (1852) it is stated that "he was made assistant librarian to the British Museum in 1795, and afterwards librarian in the MS. Department, where he prepared the third volume of the Catalogue of the Harleian MSS., published by the Record Commission. He resigned this appointment in 1807" (p. 393). In a pleasant notice of Archdeacon

Nares in Men I have Known (1866), by my old (having been produced in 1793 in Rome), and yet friend William Jerdan, it is said of him, in refer- it is, perhaps, his most original production, the ence to his appointment at the British Museum, one which brings him nearest to modern sye "Twelve years spent as librarian in the Manu-pathies and borrows least from the antique. This script Department of the British Museum helped original was taken by Murat to Compiègne, and in to heap up the measure of a career which was 1796 Canova did a replica of it for a Russian completely literary, and set him high among his prince (called Youssouppoff by Miserini in his list compeers as an ornament to the class" (p. 324). of Canova's works, compiled for his correction Jerdan, I remember, always entertained the highest during his lifetime), which is now in Villa Carrespect for the archdeacon, and spoke well of his lotta on Lake Como. courteous manners in society.

JOHN PICKFORd, M.A.

Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge.

WALTONIAN QUERIES (6th S. ix. 447).-The Life of Isaac Walton, London, 1830, 4to., is a small book consisting only of ninety-three pages and a title-page. It is not the same as the memoir written by Sir Harris Nicolas and prefixed to his edition of The Complete Angler. The British Museum has a copy of it. May I remind MR. MATHEWS that the edition of which Sir Harris Nicolas was the editor was originally issued in numbers, which were commenced in 1835? G. F. R. B. CANOVA (6th S. ix. 449).-The following extracts from the chronological list of Canova's statues and groups, given in The Works of Antonio Canova (London, 1824), will probably be of interest

to MR. GODDARD:

"1793. Group of Cupid and Psyche in a recumbent posture, executed in Carrara marble for Col. Campbell, afterwards Earl Brownlow; after various changes it was possessed by Murat, and placed in the royal palace of Compeigne (sic), near Paris; the model had been made in 1787. This group was repeated in 1796 for the Russian Prince Youssouppoff."

"1797. Group of Cupid and Psyche in an upright posture, executed in marble for Murat, and placed with the recumbent group in the palace at Compeigne; this group was repeated in 1800 for the Empress Josephine, which is now in possession of the Emperor of Russia." Outline engravings by Henry Moses of both these groups will be found in the first volume of the book from which these extracts are taken.

G. F. R. B.

I take it for granted that "Cupid et l'Amour" is a slip of the pen for "Cupid and Psyche." Canova executed two groups of this subject, and a replica of each. I believe that there is one of each in the Louvre, and I find in Murray's Guide for 1876 the following entry: "Two lovely groups, Nos. 383 and 384, by Canova, Cupid and Psyche"; though the Paris Guide par les principaux Ecrivains et Artistes de la France, 1867, had only put down one, thus, "Le fameux Groupe de l'Amour et Pysché de Canova."

The first of these two groups, the most lifelike and graceful-that in which Cupid with wings extended is soaring down upon recumbent Psyche -is one of Canova's comparatively early works

Notwithstanding the exquisite beauty of this composition, it did not satisfy Canova, who thought that his creation expressed too much passion for the divine myth he had intended to portray, and took four years to elaborate the more severe standing, partly draped group. This also was taken by Murat to Compiègne, and the Empress Josephine immediately ordered a duplicate of it, which she placed in her collection at Malmaison. At her death this was bought for St. Petersburg. I believe the two Compiègne groups found their way to the Louvre. R. H. BUSK.

R. SULIVAN (6th S. ix. 427).—In answer to the inquiry in your publication of May 31 as to Mr. R. Sulivan, I would refer your correspondent to Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, where he is mentioned under the title of Filmer. He was a son of Sir B. Sulivan, and married Margaret, eldest daughter of Edmund Filmer, Esq. (17651810), son of the Rev. Sir Edmund Filmer and grandfather of the present baronet. In Burke he is described as 66 of the Inner Temple." His wife's mother was a Miss Skene, of this place, and there is now before me a small volume of his Comedies, containing, in addition to The Old Love and the Beggar on Horseback, a comedy in five acts, as New, mentioned by your correspondent, A performed at the Theatre Royal Haymarket, March 21, 1846; and Family Pride, a comedy in five acts, also performed at the Haymarket, Nov. 18, 1847. This little book bears an inscription, "From the author to his dear aunt Mary Anne, Jan. 21, 1852," which enables me to identify him with the person about whom the inquiry is made. I do not know the date of his death, but when the book mentioned passed into my hands, on the death of the donee, early in 1863, he was no longer in life. The former owner was not his own aunt, but his wife's aunt, Miss Skene. RUTTERKIN.

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degraded in Westminster Hall, May, 1621, having there are three recorded instances: Sir William been convicted of "grievous exactions." In 1814 de Marisco, in the reign of Henry III.; Sir Andrew Lord Cochrane, and in 1816 Sir Eyre Coote, were Harclay, in 1323; and Sir Francis Mitchell in severally expelled from the order of the Bath, but 1621. Sir Ralph Grey was condemned to be dethey were not degraded from their knighthood. graded in 1468, but the punishment appears to See Sir Harris Nicolas's History of the Orders of have been remitted. Expulsions from orders of Knighthood of the British Empire (1842), pp. xxvii-knighthood have taken place from time to time, xxix. If MR. VINCENT will look at the Annual the cases of Lord Dundonald and Sir Eyre Coote Register for 1814 (p. 74 of the "Chronicle") he will are instances within the memory of living people. find that on August 12, upon the removal of Lord The insignia of Lord Dundonald were ignominiously Cochrane's brass plate, helmet, &c., his "banner"kicked out" of Henry VII.'s chapel; but time was then kicked out of the chapel, according to has righted that gallant old hero, and his knightly ancient form, by the King at Arms." ornaments are now restored to their proper place G. F. R. B. again. See Stanley's Memorials of Westminster EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A. Abbey.

The degraded K.B. was Lord Cochrane, the late Earl of Dundonald, who was tried in the King's Bench in 1814 for a conspiracy to raise the funds by a false report of the death of Napoleon; his innocence is now well known. For an account of the trial see Annual Register, vol. lvi. p. 325; for an account of the degradation and kicking of the banner, which seems to have been literal, same volume, p. 74. C. F. S. W.

The Knight of the Bath to whom Timbs refers in the passage quoted by your correspondent was Lord Cochrane, afterwards Lord Dundonald. Dean Stanley, in his Memorials of Westminster Abbey, writes (p. 99):

"One remarkable degradation and restitution has taken place. Earl Dundonald's banner was, after the charges of fraud brought against him in 1814, taken from its place and ignominiously kicked down the steps of the chapel. After many vicissitudes, it was restored to the family upon his death; and in 1860, on the day of his funeral in the Abbey, by order of the Queen, was restored by the Lancaster Herald to its ancient support. In the place of the shield an unknown admirer has rudely carved in Spanish, 'Cochrane, Chili e Libertad

viva !'

In Beltz's Memorials of the Most Noble Order of
the Garter (1841), p. cxvii, it is mentioned that the
achievements of the Duke of Monmouth were re-
moved from St. George's Chapel in pursuance of
a decree passed by a chapter of the order on June
18, 1685.
On p. cxxv of the same work it is
mentioned that the achievements of the Duke of
Ormond, K.G., were in like manner removed on
July 12, 1716, when

"Clarenceux King of Arms, exercising the office of
Garter, read the Sovereign's warrant at the brazen desk.
The achievements of the degraded knight were then
severally thrown down by the heralds, and spurned out
of the choir and the west door of the chapel, where the
soldiers of the garrison were under arms. Clarenceux
concluded the ceremony by pulling the plate of the arms

from the stall."

JOHN L. SHADWELL.

21, Nottingham Place, Marylebone, W. Degradation appears to have been of two kinds, actual deprivation of the knightly dignity, and expulsion from an order. Of the first, in England

The Library, Claremont, Hastings.

[MR. E. WALFORD also suggests that the reference is tion, the names furnished by G. F. R. B. and MR. E, H, to Lord Cochrane, and ALPHA gives, with slight alteraMARSHALL.

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SIR ROBERT ASTON (6th S. ix. 447).—I cannot tell your correspondent where this knight was buried, but I can supply him with a few biographical notes which may prove interesting to him. Robert de Assheton was "employed on divers journeys in the king's service when Lionel, Duke of Clarence, came last from Ireland," Feb. 19, 1368. This event must have taken place between January, 1365, and February, 1368. The first of these journeys was " from England to Ireland and the Scottish Islands, then from England to Lombardy, and returning to the king" (Issue Roll, Michs., 42 Edw. III.). On the following May 25 he and Thomas Dale are repaid their expenses for "ordering and superintending the passage of Lionel, Duke of Clarence, with his men, horses, and baggage" from Dover to Calais (Ibid., Pasc., 42 Edw. III.). In 1376 Robert de Ashton was Treasurer of the Household to Edward III. (Patent Roll, 50 Edw. III., pt. i., July 2); and in 1377 he was Chamberlain of the King" (Close Roll, 50 Edw. III., pt. ii., Jan. 11), but the language leaves it a little doubtful whether this means the King of England or the titular King of Castile, John of Gaunt. In this last entry the name appears as "Robert de Assheton, Knt." I do not find any evidence to show that Assheton was ever in the service of Richard II. Sir Simon de Burley was

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his first chamberlain, and occurs as such only five days after his accession (Close Roll, 1 Ric. II., dorso). But Robert de Asshton was Constable of Dover Castle from Dec. 21, 1381, to April 6, 1384 (Issue Rolls, Michs. 5, and Pasc. 7, Ric. II.). One thing seems evident-that his name was not Aston, but Ashton or Assheton; and I should recommend your correspondent to look for him in Lancashire rather than in Staffordshire or Warwickshire. He was not improbably a relative of three other Asshetons, Matthew, William, and Thomas, who were in the service of John of Gaunt or his son Henry, and who were most likely Asshetons of Downham, near Clitheroe, and ancestors of the famous "Black Lad," Sir Ralph Assheton, knight of the body to Richard III. HERMENTRUde.

DATE OF BISHOP BARLOW'S CONSECRATION (6th S. ix. 89, 131, 194, 277, 490).-I will not occupy space in "N. & Q." by replying to MR. WARREN (p. 490). What I have said at the place to which he refers, and elsewhere in the same sense, is historically true; and I not only do not regret, but am glad of the opportunity to confirm, "the use of these and similar words." A more extended acquaintance with the subject would probably show MR. WARREN that the competent and honest writers on his own side have ample grounds for their recorded opinions. But that is a matter in which I cannot be supposed to have any interest beyond charitable wishes.

AN ENGLISH CATHOLIC.

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"SAL ET SALIVA" (6th S. ix. 428). MR. MANNING will find "sal et saliva" explained in so accessible a book as the compendious edition of the Annotated Prayer-Book, edited by the (alas! late) Rev. J. H. Blunt. Before the child was brought to the font, salt, over which an exorcism had been said, was placed in his mouth, with an appropriate prayer. Then, among other ceremonies, his ears and nostrils were touched with saliva. (See Administration of Baptism in the Mediaval Church of England, p. 434.)

lasting.'. After entering the church, the priest jointly with the person to be baptized, or with the sponsors, if Creed and the. Lord's Prayer. He next exorcises the an infant, recites in the vulgar_tongue the Apostles' person to be baptized, and, taking spittle from his mouth, applies it with his thumb to the ears of the person, saying, Ephphetha, be thou opened'; and to the nostrils. saying, Inodorem suavitatis, for a savour of sweetness."

Pelliccia, in his Polity of the Christian Church, p. 7, ed. 1883, says that in the fourth century the Latins introduced into the office for the preparatory examinations of catechumens the additional ceremony of giving them salt to taste.

M.A.Oxon.

It is very likely part of a form of exorcism. In the Swiss Masonic rite salt is used as an element of consecration, as a symbol of wisdom and strength, in addition to corn, wine, and oil. Saliva is supposed to preserve against incantation, and to effascinate children: "In hominis salivâ vim esse adversus veneficia et fascinationes" (Pliny, xxviii. 4, 22).

"Exemit puerum frontemque atque uda labella
Infami digito et lustralibus ante salivis
Expiat."
Persius, ii. 32.
"Infami digito" stands for the middle finger. See
Juvenal, x. 53. It also preserves from serpents, envy,
epilepsy, &c. :-" Jejunæ salivæ hominis contra
serpentes, fascinationes, invidiam, comitialem
morbum, furunculos, lichenas, lippitudines, &c.,
miram vim prædicat" (Pliny, vii. 2), and much
more to the same effect. All this shows that the
two things, "sal et saliva," are both preservative,
the one conferring direct good, the other averting
evil.
C. A. WARD.
Haverstock Hill.

Both of these form ingredients used in the
administration of the sacrament of baptism in the
Roman Catholic Church at the present day.
E. WALFORD, M.A.

Hyde Park Mansions, N.W.

INTENDED VIOLATION OF THE TOMB OF HENRY VIII. (6th S. ix. 470).—Any statement of Hugh Weston tending to blacken the character of Pole, after the latter had deprived him of the deanery of Windsor and sent him to prison, would, when Pole was dead, be of very questionable value. There seems, however, little doubt that when Pole sent commissioners to the two universities with power to exhume and degrade the bodies of dead Protestants, when the body of Bucer was burnt at Cambridge in 1557, and the body of Peter Martyr's wife was taken up at Oxford the same year and buried under a dunghill, that men's thoughts would naturally turn to the body of so eminent and mischievous a heretic as Henry VIII, who had been buried in spite of the Pope's ex"After blessing the salt, which is a symbol of wisdom, communication. Thomas Heywood, in England's the priest puts a small quantity into the mouth of the person to be baptized, saying, "Receive the salt of Elizabeth, 1632, p. 172, thus refers to this matter: wisdom; let it be to thee a propitiation unto life ever-"Nay, in this fury the bones of King Henry the

EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
The Library, Claremont, Hastings.
The Garden of the Soul, by Bp. Challoner, on
the "Sacrament of Baptism ":-

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