heathen, as you must tell him, that your | I shall give my cordial support to the Bill relation to the Jew was not very well de- before the House. fined that you lived on friendly terms with the Jew-that you imposed on him all the burdens to which a British subject was liable that you freely borrowed his money -that the Jew might dispense justice as a magistrate that he might be Lord Mayor of the city of London-that he was qualified for almost all civil offices-that he might elect Members of Parliament, but that from zeal for the Christian faith you could not allow the Jew to be a Member himself-surely this appeal, however consistent with the truth, would not make a powerful impression on his mind. LORD D. STUART called the attention of the House to a statement made by the hon. Member for Warwickshire (Mr. Newdegate), that Baron Lionel de Rothschild had paid money for the purpose of obtaining signatures to petitions for the removal of the Jewish disabilities. He gave the most positive denial to the statement, which he had no doubt the hon. Gentleman had made, believing it to be well founded; but the hon. Gentleman belonged to a school whose prejudices rendered them peculiarly liable to be misled. Though the signatures to petitions presented before the reTry the force of another appeal. Tell cess against the Bill amounted to 13,000, the heathen of the wrongs which Christian while those in favour of it amounted to States have inflicted on the Jews: tell him 6,000 or 7,000, the signatures presented to that we live under a constitution which petitions in favour of the Bill were estiknows no distinctions among British sub-mated at 232,000 since the recess, while jects as to civil rights-that we profess a those against were only 35,000. The religion which commands us to be forbear-right hon. Gentleman (Sir R. Peel) had ing and forgiving towards one another- said with great truth that the Jews in Pothat we serve a God whose almighty land were oppressed. The Bill should repower is most chiefly declared by showing ceive his support, because it afforded the mercy and pity-that we worship a Re-best means of dispelling error and diffusing deemer who inculcated by his life, and sanctified by his death, the precepts of Christian charity: tell him, that in humble obedience to these precepts, we have given to the Jews the same benefits and privileges we possess ourselves-try the force of that appeal, and it will not be made in vain. truth. MR. NEWDEGATE had been accused of stating what was not the fact. He had received two petitions to this House in favour of the Bill. They were brought to him by the agent of the committee for supporting Mr. Rothschild's return. They were directed to him (Mr. Newdegate) at It is for these reasons-because I be- Mr. Rothschild's committee-room, and lieve it to be in conformity with the en- were brought to his own. The circumlarged and comprehensive spirit of the stance appeared singular. It prompted British constitution that these qualifica- him to inquire whether any organisation tions should no longer exist-because I existed for procuring signatures. His rejoice in the opportunity of making repa- former statement was substantially corration for the injuries and persecutions of rect, though it might not be so in the former times-because I think the Jew terms reported. His statement was, that has fairly earned the privileges which it is persons were employed to procure signaproposed to extend to him, by patience and tures in favour of the Bill for the removal forbearance by tried fidelity and loyalty of the Jewish disabilities on the part of -but, above all, because I am one of a Baron Lionel de Rothschild and his comChristian people, because I am a Member mittee; and that the first contract was for of a Christian Legislature, I will perform 1s. 6d. a hundred; that the next, he bean act which I believe to be in strict con-lieved, was 3s.; and here he had made a formity with the spirit and precepts of the mistake, for the sliding-scale, it appeared, Christian religion. We are commanded terminated at 3s., and was converted into by that religion, as the condition of our a fixed duty of 5s. a day. own forgiveness, to forgive those who have trespassed against us. That duty is not in this case imposed upon us; but there is another duty, as sacred in point of moral obligation, and more trying to human pride, namely, that we should forgive those against whom we have trespassed. Sir, The House divided on the question that the words proposed to be left out stand part of the question:-Ayes 277; Noes 204: Majority 73. Abdy, T. N. List of the AYES. Aglionby, H. A. Buck, L. W. Campbell, hon. W. F. Clive, H. B. Cobbold, J. C. Cochrane, A.D. R. W. B. Cocks, T. S. Halford, Sir H. Halsey, T. P. Hamilton, G. A. Harris, hon. Capt. Hayes, Sir E. Heald, J. Heathcote, Sir W. Heneage, G. H. W. Henley, J. W. Hervey, Lord A. Hildyard, R. C. Hildyard, T. B. T. Hodgson, W. N. Hood, Sir A. Hope, Sir J. Hope, A. Hornby, J. Hudson, G. Lowther, hon. Col. Masterman, J. Maunsell, T. P. Maxwell, hon. J. P. Meux, Sir H. Miles, P. W. S. Miles, W. Moody, C. A. Moore, G. II. Morgan, O. Mundy, E. M. Neeld, J. Neeld, J. Forbes, W. Newdegate, C. N. Forester, hon. G. C. W. Newry and Morne, Visct. Fox, S. W. L. Noel, hon. G. J. Frewen, C. I. Ossulston, Lord Packe, C. W. Pakington, Sir J. Palmer, R. Filmer, Sir E. Floyer, J. Fuller, A. E. Godson, R. Gooch, E. S. Raphael, A. Rendlesham, Lord Seymer, H. K. Shirley, E. J. Sibthorp, Col. Simeon, J. Smyth, J. G. Bill read a second time. PASSENGERS' ACT. MR. LABOUCHERE moved for leave to bring in a Bill to make further provision for the carriage of passengers by sea to North America. The House was aware of the dreadful abuses which prevailed last year in consequence of the crowded state of the vessels which conveyed the emigrants from Ireland to our North American colonies. There was a prospect of a large emigration taking place this year also from Ireland, and the Government wished the House to legislate against the recurrence of the evils complained of during the past year. Out of 106,000 emigrants, who during the last twelve months crossed the Atlantic for Canada and New Brunswick, 6,100 perished on the voyage, 4,100 on their arrival, 5,200 in the hospitals, and 1,900 in the towns to which they repaired. The total mortality was no less than 17 per cent upon the aggregate number emigrating, the number of emigrants being 106,000, and the number of deaths 17,300. The Bill proposed to establish a certain proportion between the tonnage and the number of passengers carried, so as to ensure sufficient space for their accommodation. It also provided that a sufficient quantity of diet should be secured on board the emigrant vessels. What had happened was this-that a number of people in a state of destitution were thrown into vessels, and were not sufficiently provided for during the voyage. It was desirable that the Bill should he passed as speedily as possible, in order that its pro- | for the borough of Great Yarmouth; that HOUSE OF LORDS, Monday, February 14, 1848. MINUTES.] Took the Oaths.- Lord Skelmersdale. PETITIONS PRESENTED. By Earl Eglintoun, from Magistrates and Town Council of Ayr, and Aberbrothwick, for Alteration of the Bank Charter Act, and Scottish Cur rency Act.-From Archdeacon and Clergy of Bedford, and Inhabitants of the Parish of Hunstanton, against the Admission of Jews into Parliament.-From Independent praying that the Provisions of the Benefit Societies Act may be extended to them in common with other Benefit Order of Odd Fellows, Manchester Unity, of Marlborough, Societies. HOUSE OF COMMONS, Monday, February 14, 1848. MINUTES.] NEW WRIT.-For Waterford, v. Daniel O'Connell, Esq., Chiltern Hundreds. PUBLIC BILLS-20 Distilling from Sugar. PETITIONS PRESENTED. By Mr. Horsman, from Milton (Kent), for Amendment of Church Endowment Act.-By Mr. Bankes, from Dorset, for Increasing Efficiency of the Church of England.-By Mr. Forbes, and other hon. Members, from several places, against the Jewish Disabilities Bill.-By Mr. Christy, from Stafford, and Sir R. H. Inglis, from Manchester, against the Jewish Disabilities and Roman Catholic Relief Bills.-By Mr. Bankes, and other hon. Members, from several places, complaining of the Conduct of the Roman Catholic Clergy (Ireland).— By Lord Ashley, from Stafford, and Mr. Buck, from Suffolk, against, and by the Earl of Arundel and Surrey, from several places, in favour of, the Roman Catholic Relief Bill.-By Mr. Christopher, from Lincoln, against Conceskeith, for Alteration of the Law respecting Sites for Churches (Scotland).-By Mr. Horsman, from Matching, for staying Proceedings respecting the Tithe, Poor, and other hon. Members, from several places, for Inquiry into the Case of the Rajah of Sattara.-By Mr. Bankes, and other hon. Members, from various places, for Repeal of sions to Roman Catholics.-By Mr. Cowan, from Dal. Ecclesiastical Commissions.-By Mr. Lushington, and Duty on Attorneys' Certificates.-By Mr. Duncan, from Dundee, and by Mr. Hume, from Montrose, for Inquiry into the Excise Laws. GREAT YARMOUTH ELECTION. MR. SEYMER brought up the report of the Select Committee appointed to inquire into the petition of F. H. Goldsmid and others, against the return of the hon. Arthur Lennox, commonly called Lord Arthur Lennox, and Octavius Edward Coope, Esq., for the borough of Great Yarmouth. The hon. Member said, he had to inform the House that the Committee had determined that Lord Arthur Lennox and Octavius Edward Coope, Esq., were not duly elected to sit in Parliament the late election for that borough was a void election; that Lord Arthur Lennox and Octavius Edward Coope, Esq., were, through their agents, guilty of bribery at the last election for the borough of Great Yarmouth; that it was proved before the Committee that various electors had been bribed, but that there was no evidence to show that those acts of bribery were committed with the knowledge and consent of either the said Lord Arthur Lennox or Octavius Edward Coope, Esq.; and that the Committee were of opinion, from the evidence given before them, that gross, systematic, and extensive bribery prevailed at the last election among the freemen of Great Yarmouth; and the Committee, therefore, considered it their duty to express to the House their unanimous opinion that the freemen of that borough should be disfranchised, and that no writ should be issued for the said borough till the necessary measures had been taken for the purpose of such disfranchisement. Report ordered to lie on the table. MR. SEYMER moved that the report be printed; and that the issue of a new writ for the borough of Great Yarmouth be suspended till the House had taken into consideration the recommendations contained in the report of the Committee. Agreed to. REVENUE OF THE ARCHBISHOP OF LORD J. RUSSELL: On Friday evening the hon. Member for Cockermouth gave notice of his intention to ask me this evening whether the Government would undertake to inform the person who may be appointed to the vacant see of Canterbury that he must accept it subject to any alteration which Parliament might make relative to the mode of fixing the income of the see. The hon. Member stated that a similar course had been followed in the case of the Bishop of Durham; and he might have referred to other instances in which a notice of that kind was given. I am of opinion that the present mode of fixing the income is not satisfactory; and I think that Parliament may make a better arrangement with respect both to the payment by the Commissioners to the Archbishops and Bishops, and to the payment of those right rev. Prelates back to the Commissioners; and, therefore, I think it perfectly right that any person who may be appointed Archbishop of Canterbury should be informed that he must accept the appointment subject to any new arrangement which Parliament may make. To prevent any misconception I may state, that it is not the intention of the Government to propose any alteration with respect to the amount of the Archbishop of Canterbury's income, which is fixed at 15,000l. THE NEW HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT. MR. LABOUCHERE moved the Order of the Day for the House to resolve itself into Committee upon the New Zealand Government Bill. so much to blame in this business. Considering the total want of control over the whole of these proceedings on the part of the Government or of Parliament, nobody could wonder that that gentleman should not be very anxious to conclude the job. Since the days of the celebrated architect Amphion, who was said to have moved the stones and raised the walls of Thebes at the sound of his lyre, there had not been a name more bruited about by the voice of fame than that of Mr. Barry. But there was this remarkable difference between the Theban architect and the Christian, that whereas the works of the former were MR. OSBORNE said, that under ordin- finished in an inconceivably short space of ary circumstances he should have hesitated time, the works of the latter had been before venturing to move an Amendment spread over a period which was not yet on an Order of the Day; but he thought brought to a close; and he ventured to prethat the subject which he was about to dict, unless the House took them into their bring under the attention of the House fully own hands, never would be brought to a justified him in deviating from the usual close in the lifetime of the present generacourse. After the ingenuous but extraor- tion. What he was anxious to establish dinary statement made on a former even- on the present occasion was, first, that ing by the noble Lord at the head of the there had been a most reckless expenditure Government, and the noble Lord at the of the public money, without a due exerhead of the Woods and Forests-to the cise of public control, in the building of the effect that they would not make themselves New Houses of Parliament; and, secondly, responsible for the expenditure of the ar- that there had been a most unnecessary chitect the House would betray its duty delay in carrying on the works. In the as guardian of the public purse if it re- month of October, 1834, the Old Houses frained from coming to a distinct under- of Parliament were burnt down; and the standing on the subject with the Govern- first thing done on the subject was in the ment. The course taken with respect to Session of 1835, when a Committee of the the new Houses furnished a remarkable il- House of Commons sat, and came to cerlustration of the aphorism, "what is every-tain resolutions as to building New Houses body's business is nobody's business." of Parliament. He had not any great fault When he made some inquiries the other evening with the view of ascertaining what the Government were doing in the matter, the First Lord of the Treasury said in so many words that he was doing nothing; and the noble Lord at the head of the Woods and Forests declared that he was assisting his Colleague. The replies which he then received reminded him of the Joe Miller dialogue-"What are you doing, Jack?" 66 Nothing, Sir." "And what are you about, Tom?" "Helping of Jack, Sir. He thought, if the House took that very peculiar answer into consideration, they would be anxious to make inquiry into the subject. He was not about to make any attack upon or bring any charge against Mr. Barry. He was free to confess that he believed, from all the accounts he could hear of that gentleman, that he was a man of as strict honour and propriety as any Member of that House. Neither did he think that Mr. Barry was to find with their proceedings. They might |