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JOHN HALL, OF Basingstoke (8th S. ii. 249, tioned in Johnson (under “Goblin "), who was, 414, 430, 515, 536).-There were Halls in Basing- of course, aware that the words in question were stoke before 1595. G. W. M.'s William Hall,much older than the factions. Derivations of this whose will was registered in that year and who kind were probably, in the first instance, given as was buried in the Holy Ghost Chapel at Basing- a sort of joke or play upon the words, which people stoke, was the second son of Richard Hall, Bayliff in ancient and medieval times were usually much W. T. LYNN. of Basingstoke, who died 1604/5, and grandson fonder of than we are. Blackheath. of Richard, first Warden of the Holy Ghost, who died 1558. These Halls had no arms, for at the Visitation of 1622-34 the fact that John Hall (William's brother) was then bayliff is recorded, but there is no entry of arms. I can trace no connexion between these Halls and the "John Hall, gent.," whose children were baptized at The tomb of John's son Basingstoke 1715–7. Charles in the cloisters at Westminster bears no arms; that of his son John, in St. Peter's, Oxford, is covered by matting, if not buried under the H. HALL.

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23, Cedars Road, Beckenham. John Hall, Bishop of Bristol (1691-1710) came old Worcestershire family; they were clothiers, and carried on a business that might well suffice to enrich them for several generations. Thus, Richard Hall was minister of St. Helen's, Worcester, in 1553; Richard Hall, clothier, was Chamberlain of Worcester in 1578; John, the bishop, was born in Worcester 1632/3, a son of the vicar of Bromsgrove. Burke quotes several Hall coats of the "talbot heads and crusily," three being apportioned to Worcester. Our mayors and aldermen in London have had to bear coat armour for many centuries. Why should not these Halls be armigerous? The patronymic seems to have come to the surface in the reign of Edward IV.; the Wars of the Roses having broken up many feudal holdings, a new resident, settling in a country parish, would build a new mansion and call it "a Hall "; his son, abandoning an old family name, becomes so-and-so at the Hall, whence the full-blown name. Thus, a scion of the Norman Fitzwilliams, or Saxon if you like, became Simon at the Hall, and from this Greatford family many claim descent. It appears to me that the "three talbots' heads are an intentional variation of the Fitzwilliams' leopards' heads, and the addition of cross-crosslets" in the bishop's coat is a sufficient A. HALL. distinction.

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"The Hall" of John Hall is at Salisbury, and is now used, I believe, as a china warehouse. I possess an engraving of the interior of this "Hall," size 8 in. by 51⁄2 in., which A. H. is welcome to if he will send an addressed envelope to

GEO. F. TUDOR SHERWOOD. Petersham House, Walham Green, S.W. MISTAKEN DERIVATION (8th S. iii. 46).—Although ASTARTE had not heard, before reading Miss Clerke, of the absurd derivation of elf and goblin from Guelf and Ghibelline, it is men

The derivation of elf and goblin from [Guelf and Ghibelline has often been given. Heylin (Cosmography,' 1670, p. 130) says, "Some are of opinion, that the fiction of Elfs and Goblins, whereby we used to fright young children, was derived from Guelphs and Gibbelines." Skinner's 'Old Etymology of the English Tongue' gives this 66 Goblins.' derivation, sub voce JAMES HOOPer.

Norwich.

HERALDIC (8th S. iii. 28, 57).—The exact blazon of the coat of arms, Gu., a fess engrailed between three estoiles arg., is not given in Papworth, but by reference to p. 751 of that book possibly a clue may be had, for there are several coats of arms mentioned very similar to this one, and differing only as regards the tinctures or partition lines. If the fess had not been engrailed it would refer A. to the arms of the families of Esterham, Everard, or Harold.

In the usual books of reference there are no such arms given, but the following: Gu., a fess nebuly between three estoiles arg., for Everard, of counties Essex, Northampton, and Norfolk.

J. A.

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INGULPH'S 'CROYLAND CHRONICLE' (8th S. ii. 467; iii. 15).-The evidence on which Ingulf's 'History and Charters' are proved to be forgeries is marshalled with his usual ability by Mr. Henry Thomas Riley in the Archæological Journal of 1862. Mr. Riley gives good reason for his theory that the forgery took place between July 7, 1393, and 1415, and that Prior Richard of Croyland and Serjeant William Ludyngton, his counsel, concocted the plot between them. It was, Mr. Riley suggests, to support the case of the convent against the people of Spalding and their supporters, who encroached upon the rights of Croyland, so the convent maintained. Abbot Thomas Overton was blind, and prior Richard Upton managed the business in London, where he spent two years and the very large sum, in those days, of five hundred pounds. As Judge Ludyngton, as he had then

become, was one of the two umpires who settled
the matter finally, it does not seem improbable
that Mr. Riley has hit on the very men who at
least were aiders and abettors in the forgery.
The above is only a summary of the conclusions in
the second of the two articles of the Archaeological
Journal.
THOMAS WILLIAMS.

"HE THAT RUNS MAY READ" (8th S. ii. 529).Is not this a quotation from Cowper's Tirocinium; or, a Review of Schools,' which poem was dedicated to the Rev. W. C. Unwin on November 6, 1784, consequently of an earlier date than the two quotations given by MR.

TERRY ?—

But truths, on which depends our main concern,
That 'tis our shame and misery not to learn,
Shine by the side of every path we tread
With such a lustre, he that runs may read.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.

71, Brecknock Road.

'IMITATION OF CERIST' (8th S. iii. 9).-Enclosed is a copy of the title-page of the Imitation of Christ,' published in Belfast (not Dublin) in 1846, as given in N. & Q.' by S. H.:

"The Imitation of Christ in | four books with I Practical Reflections | and | Prayers at the end of each chapter translated from the French By R. M. P. K. | Belfast Simms & M'Intyre, Donegall Street. | 1846."

The copy I possess was purchased from the Cistercian monks at St. Bernard's Abbey, Charnwood Forest, Leicestershire, in August, 1850. I am told the book is now out of print.

Torquay.

W. J. CHAMBERLAYNE, General.

ANA BIBLIOGRAPHICAL (8th S. ii. 224, 517).— Your correspondent Q. V. rightly gives as an English title ending in "-ana earlier than any that Dr. Murray has," the 'Baconiana' of 1679. Two correspondents, eager to correct Q. V., have given as earlier uses of the termination -ana, the one, 66 Thuana, Scaligerana, Perroniana," the other "Perroniana et Thuana" (Col. Agrip., 1669), but the -ana they cite are not English, but French (and in the case of the 'Scaligerana' with an intermixture of Latin). The 'Baconiana' of 1679 is, I think, the earliest use of an English title ending in -ana, for though Lowndes cites an edition of the 'Baconiana' of 1674, 4to., Mr. Spedding makes mention of no edition earlier than that published by Dr. Tenison in 1679.

des Hommes savans tirez de l'Histoire de Mr. de Thou,' printed at Berlin. Teissier obtained it from M. la Croze, who professed to have copied it from the original manuscript, entitled Pithoeana, sive excerpta ex ore Francisci Pithoei, anno 1616,' and according to Des Maizeaux, in his edition of the 'Scaligerana' and other -ana (Amsterdam, 1740), La Croze wrote at the foot of his copy, "Tout ceci a été copié sur l'Original qui est à Paris dans la Bibliothèque de Mr. Desmarets, écrit de la propre main de François Pithou, neveu de Pierre et de François Pithou."

A list of ana will be found in Peignot's Répertoire de Bibliographies Spéciales' (Paris, 1810), pp. 211-268. The author quotes "Melanchthoniana (à Jo. Manlio), Basileæ, 1562, in 8vo.," but adds "Nous ne connaissons cet Ana que par le titre." I have failed to find any book with this title, and doubt its existence. Io. Manlius (Mennel)-according to Jöcher, "Jacob"-is cited by Strobel, in his edition of Camerarius 'De Vita Philippi Melanchthonis Narratio' (Hala, 1777), as the author or compiler of 'Locorum Communium Collectanea ex lectionibus Melanchthoni,' Basil., 1563; and I imagine this to be the book referred to by Peignot. R. C. CHRISTIE.

A FRENCH STONEHENGE (8th S. ii. 508).—Upon almost any wild common in the west of France one finds Celtic remains, but they are more numerous on the west coast (Département du Morbihan). The wonderful display at Carnac and the enormous granitic obelisks of Locmariaquer are bigger than any single block at Stonehenge, but a little broken. These remains are of many kinds, called

1. Peulvens, pillars of stone. The best of them can be seen at Carnac.

The largest, above 42 ft. in height, is at Plouarzel. 2. Menhirs (Ir. min-sul), long stone of the sun. Those at Locmariaquer, lying upon the ground and broken, have been above 60 ft. high.

3. Kistvaen. The finest is on the island of Gavre Innès, near Locmariaquer.

4. The Dolmans (taal maen), table men in stone. In English, cromlechs; in French, allées couvertes. From 60 to 90 ft. long.

These Celtic remains are not confined to the

5. The Galgats, a kind of cairn. The largest is the Butte de Tumiac, on the Morbihan beach. west of France, although more numerous there than elsewhere. They are always in flat open places, like Salisbury Plain, Dartmoor, &c. Les derniers Bretons'; Daru, 'History'; VilleFréminville's 'Finistère et Morbihan'; Souvestre, marqué, 'Chansons populaires'; Merimée, 'Sur les Monumens de l'Ouest de la France.'

See

The earliest printed of the innumerable French ana, is the 'Scaligerana' of 1668. If, however, Des Maizeaux is correct, the term had been used nearly half a century earlier by François Pithou the younger, in the manuscript of his notes of the table-talk of his uncle François Pithou the BETHELL X. elder, which, however, was not printed until 1704, when it appeared, under the title of 'Pithoeana,' The French Stonehenge, of which Gilpin speaks, in Teissier's Nouvelles Additions aux Eloges is near Carnac, in the Department of Morbihan,

in Brittany. The stones are said to be about four day, and several Fridays. Boston has no dwellers thousand in number, and, according to M. Cam-whose names are like those of the days of the week. bry's Monuments Celtiques,' some of the stones which he measured are from 21 to 22 French feet in height, without reckoning the part embedded in the soil. J. CARRICK MOORE.

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George Borrow, in his entrancing book, 'The Bible in Spain,' describes a Druidical cromlech in Portugal. Though not what your correspondent requires, the account may be interesting to him.

"Whilst toiling along these wild wastes, I observed, a little way to my left, a pile of stones of rather a singular appearance, and rode up to it. It was a Druidical altar, and the most perfect and beautiful one of the kind which I had ever seen. It was circular, and consisted of stones immensely large and heavy at the bottom, which towards the top became thinner and thinner, having been fashioned by the hand of art to something of the shape of scollop shells. These were surmounted by a very large flat stone, which slanted down towards the south, where was a door. Three or four individuals might have taken shelter within the interior, in which was growing a small thorn-tree."-Chap. vii.

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Baltimore has two Fridays. Philadelphia has two
Mondays and several Fridays. Brooklyn has five
Mondays and seven Fridays. This compilation
does not take into account the German forms,
such as Sonntag, Freitag, &c., which are of frequent
occurrence. The regular army does not appear
to have possessed any owner of such names.
JOHN E. NORCROSS.

Brooklyn, U.S.

LUCE (8th S. ii. 328, 353, 391, 435, 511).-It is so unusual for PROF. SKEAT to be inaccurate that I venture upon a question. On reference to Guillim's Heraldry, 1660, iv. ii. 273, also to Edmondson's Heraldry,' "Honour Civil," p. 168, I see that in both the description is substantially the same. The latter has:

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porated in the first of King Richard II.
"The Company of Skinners were [cor. was] incor-
armour is Ermyn, on a chief gules three crowns or, with
Their coat
caps thereunto of the first."

In both the above works the ornaments of the crown
are the usual strawberry leaves, nor are there any
traces of crosses or fleurs-de-lys. What is the
actual grant? Is there mention in it of these
ornaments of the crown; or have they become
insertions or alterations? ED. MARSHALL.

Hazlitt, in his essay on 'Definition of Wit,' says:

of the order of the flower-de-luce, or the companions of
"Compagnons du lys may mean either the companions
Ulysses-who were transformed into swine-according
as you lay the emphasis. The French wits, at the
restoration of Louis XVIII., with admirable point and
truth, applied it in this latter sense."
CONSTANCE RUSSELL.

THE "NEW LONDON TAVERN" (8th S. i. 188, 284; ii. 312).—Surely many of your readers must well remember the famous "London Tavern" of modern times (where so many dinners were enjoyed and important meetings held), which stood on the site in Bishopsgate Street Within now occupied by the noble counting-house of the Royal Bank of Scotland. Its successor is located at the corner of Mark Lane and Fenchurch Street, and is a remarkably good specimen of architectare. Queen Elizabeth is said to have honoured TENNYSON AND THE GEM' (8th S. iii. 8, 57). the tavern which formerly stood on the latter site-There seems to be some mistake about this with her presence in returning from the Tower. D. HARRISON.

PERSSE FAMILY (8th S. iii. 7).—There is a bookplate of a "Robert Parsons Persse," presumably of Moyode, in the plain Victorian style, bearing arms, Quarterly 1 and 4, Az., five fusils conjoined in fess arg.; 2 and 3, Arg., a lion ramp. (tincture not marked). Crest, On a cap of maintenance a lion pass. (? tinctures). Motto, "Esperance en Dieu." This seems to be the only book-plate of this family. A. VICARS.

NAMES OF THE MONTHS AND DAYS AS SUR

Swallowfield, Reading.

matter in the American edition referred to by MR. DAVIES. All three poems-'No More,'' Anaof The Gem' for 1831, the last being on pp. 242-3. creontics,' and 'A Fragment'-appear in my copy MR. HENDERSON'S copy must, therefore, be imperfect, unless there were two distinct editions of The poem is well worth preserving, and contains several fine and character

the annual that year.

istic lines. The close

Old Memphis hath gone down :
The Pharaohs are no more: somewhere in death
They sleep with staring eyes and gilded lips,
Wrapped round with spiced cerements in old grots
Rockhewn and sealed for ever.

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"familiar quotation
when 'The Gem' ceased to appear, but it must
have become extinct long before 1861.
GEO. E. DARTNELL.

NAMES (8th S. i. 209, 227, 519).-The Chicago-would almost seem to have become adopted as a 'Directory' contains the names of John and William now. I have no note as to Sunday, of Joseph Monday, several persons named Friday, and Joseph Saturday. In New York, there are Frederick, Joseph, and Lewis Sunday, Henry Monday, and four others, Philip Thurs

Salisbury.

THE SIEGE OF BELGRADE' (8th S. iii. 68).— If D-T will refer to a reply (7th S. xi. 213) headed "An Austrian Army," &c., he will find that Mr. Alaric A. Watts, according to his son's published account, was the author of the nonsensical lines, which first appeared in the Literary Gazette, 1820. J. DIXON.

TERMS USED IN CONNEXION WITH THE THUN. DERSTORM (8th S. ii. 201, 413, 533; iii. 74).-It is asserted by MR. C. A. WARD that "there is no verb 'to thunderstrike' extant." This "universal negative is too wide a verdict for a mortal judgment to place on record." The verb occurs in 'Childe Harold,' c. iv. st. 181:

The armaments which thunderstrike the walls
Of rock-built cities.

R. D. WILSON.

"WHAT CHEER?" (8th S. iii. 66.)-Surely no one at all familiar with English literature imagines this phrase to have taken its rise as "modern slang"! It occurs, for instance, not infrequently in Shakespere; a glance at Schmidt's 'Lexicon howing that the poet uses it at least six times. This will no doubt have been remembered ere now by so good a Shakesperean scholar as Dr. Furnivall, to whom so many, I among the number, have owed gratitude for kind encouragement and help in the study of Shakespere. E. H. HICKEY. Hampstead.

PLAINNESS VERSUS BEAUTY (8th S. ii. 289, 477; iii. 72).—I quoted some lines of Shakspeare, but I made no reference to Lord Carlisle or to the lines quoted by MR. HEATHCOTE, who has attributed to me the answer of another contributor.

E. YARDLEY.

Z. COZENS (8th S. iii. 8). The annexed entry is found in the parish register of Chilham, co. Kent:

"Baptisms, 1763. Zechariah, Son of Edward Cozens & Mary his Wife, was born July 23rd & baptized August 12th

1763."

daughter, Mary. Zechariah, his youngest child, born in 1763, was appointed with his mother Mrs. Mary Cozens, widow (who died at Chilham, Dec. 16, 1795, in her seventieth year), to the management of the charity school at Margate on its establishment at Michaelmas, 1787. He was the author of 'A Tour through the Isle of Thanet, and some other Parts of East Kent,' 4to., Lond., 1793, and for many years an occasional contributor to the Gentleman's Magazine of papers relating to topographical subjects in the vicinity af his residence, his communications sometimes appearing assumed from the title of an office he filled with under his own signature, but oftener under initials much commendation, viz., T. MOT. F.S.M., i.&, "The Master of the Free School, Margate."

After

a union of nearly twenty-three years, the death
occurred at Margate, on July 7, 1810, of his wife
Jane, born circa 1763, descended from the Bedoes
of Lymne, near Hythe, Kent, "John Bedo,
gent., ob. Sept. 14, 1767, ætat. 73,” being her
grandfather. It appears from a note on p. 456 of
his Tour' that Mr. Cozens possessed an ample
MS. collection of monumental inscriptions, topo-
graphical notes, &c., to illustrate the antiquities
of his native county. It had been the intention of
the author to resume and extend his operations to
all the remaining churches in the arch-diocese of
Canterbury, for which purpose some hundred
pages of manuscript had been prepared for the
press. Is anything known of the subsequent
history of these MSS.? It is possible that one
of your correspondents may be in a position to
furnish a note of Mr. Cozens's death and the place
of his burial.
DANIEL HIPWELL.

17, Hilldrop Crescent, N.

WESLEY AND THE MICROSCOPE (8th S. ii. 448; iii. 13).—The curious quotation furnished by MR. WEST from a sermon by John Wesley, as to microscopic animals, reminds me of reading, many years ago, a little octavo volume, published in one of the latter years of the seventeenth century, in which the writer, who was evidently a man learned The said Edward Cozens, only son of Daniel in the physical sciences of his day, took upon Cozens, of Chilham, who died June 18, 1749, himself to reply to those obscurantists who mainaged sixty-three (by Mary his wife, daughter of tained that the revelations of the microscope were Wm. and Bridget Read, of Godmersham, co. Kent," deceitful and fallacious." I have forgotten the who died Jan. 29, 1779, at. seventy-nine), was descended from the family of Cozens, Cozins, Cousins, or Cosseyns (as the name was written at different periods), of Sandwich and its neighbourhood. He was born at Upper Hardres, Kent, Nov. 3, 1719, became in 1743 master of the school kept in the church of Chilham, and on Oct. 17, 1756, was nominated and appointed clerk of the same parish, in both which offices he continued till his death on April 11, 1783, being then aged sixty-three years. He had issue by Mary his wife (to whom he was married in the parish church of St. Martin, Canterbury, in 1745), seven sons and one

title of the book, and do not know whether the
writer's name was given on the title-page. If any
I shall be grateful.
one can identify it by this very shadowy description
K. P. D. E.

ST. THOMAS'S DAY CUSTOM: APPLES AND ST. CLEMENT'S DAY (8th S. iii. 29). Similar queries were inserted in N. & Q.' upwards of forty years ago (see 1 S. v. 393). Of all the anniversaries religiously observed by our ancestors, Christmas Day is the only one which preserves its ancient position. St. Thomas's Day, St. Clement's Day, with very many other notable feasts have com

pletely sunk into oblivion, and their very origin is unknown.

"Going a Gooding' on St. Thomas's Day (Dec. 21) in Staffordshire was the subject of a communication to ' N. & Q.' by the late CUTHBERT BEDE (2nd S. iv. 487), and is also described by Timbs, in his 'Garland for the Year,' p. 128. There is but little information to be gleaned from Brand's Popular Antiquities' or Hone's books. The fullest and best account of the custom will be found in Chambers's 'Book of Days,' ii. 723-4, under the title of 'Going a-Thomasing." The following, from the publication Long Ago (ii. 81), is said to have been sung in Worcestershire by the children going from house to house :

Wassail, Wassail, through the town,

If you've got any apples, throw them down;
Up with the stocking, and down with the shoe,
If you've got no apples, money will do;
The jug is white, and the beer is brown,
This is the best house in the town.

The doggerel sung in Staffordshire and Worcestershire, on the apple feast of St. Clement (Nov. 23) is given in N. & Q.,' 1st S. viii. 618, also, with slight variations, in Timbs's 'Garland for the Year.' The ceremonies observed on both days, with the rhymes recited by the children in the various counties of England, may be found in a recently published volume, entitled 'English FolkRhymes,' by G. F. Northall.

EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.

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71, Brecknock Road. SIR GEORGE DOWNING (8th S. ii. 464; iii. 39). I cannot agree with MR. HALL that Pepys, in what he says of Sir George Downing, was prejudiced." Pepys tells that everything Downing had in the world he owed to Cromwell," the arch regicide. Hume tells that Downing had been chaplain in Okey's regiment. Now, Okey was one of the three regicides denounced by Downing, and executed. Nothing could be more base. So far from Pepys being prejudiced, he says, "the action is good and of service to the King, yet he cannot with a safe conscience do it." Afterwards he admits that Downing was "active and a man of business." An active man of business may be a scoundrel. J. CARRICK MOORE.

To the citations from Pepys add, from Evelyn's Diary,' the following references: Vol. i. pp. 8 and 59; vol. iii. p. 242.

Hastings.

EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M. A.

THE POETS IN A THUNDERSTORM (8th S. ii. 422, 482; iii. 22).-Whilst thanking PROF. TOMLINSON, as all readers of 'N. & Q.' will agree to do, for his capital series of articles on this subject, I must question his assertion that descriptive poetry has had its day-is exhausted. It would be strange indeed, if it were true, that poets should cease to

describe just when they are learning to describe
accurately. No doubt their descriptions will
become more truthful, and therefore more beautiful,
but they are not likely as yet to have to weep for
fresh worlds to conquer; nor is man, as man, likely
to become weary yet awhile of his beautiful and well-
stored abode. That man himself, rather than his
abode, will be the chief theme of the poets of the
future is doubtless true, as it has always been true;
but man's physical environment will always be inter-
esting to him, and every generation will look at it
with fresh eyes. We shall have no more Thomsons
or Cowpers; but just because these men and their
mode is so hopelessly outworn there must be a new
descriptive poetry. Science and poetry will yet
join hands again :-

And make one music as before,
But vaster.

C. C. B.

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BALE (8th S. ii. 389; iii. 32).—On the authority of Alumni Westmonasterienses' (1852, p. 471) it is stated that Charles Sackville Bale, Esq., was a town - boy at Westminster School, a canoneer student of Christ Church, graduated B.A. in 1813, and M. A. in 1816. His grandfather and father, each named Sackville Stephens Bale, were educated at the school and elected to Christ Church in 1742 and 1771. His younger brother, George Bale, was elected to Oxford in 1810, B. A. in 1814, M. A. in 1816, and was appointed Rector of Odcombe, This was the living of Somersetshire, in 1836. the Rev. George Coriate, whose son Tom Coriate, or Coryat, author of 'Crudities hastily Gobbled up,' was born there in 1577. JOHN PICKFORD, M.A. Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge,

He has,

PORTRAITS OF ROBERT BURNS (8th S. ii. 428; iii. 29).-I am obliged to MR. NASH for his information that the large "profiles" by Miers were reduced by means of the pantograph. however, fallen into error in his statement that we have "abundant proof" of Burns having sat to Miers, in the fact that the poet sent one of the "profiles" to Tytler, of Woodhouselee. If we had no stronger proof than this we might well remain uncertain; for there is no evidence that it was a "profile " that accompanied the poem sent to Tytler. Burns was in the habit of giving away to his friends proof impressions of the engraving by Beugo after Nasmyth's portrait (see his letter to

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